Has Trumpery Consigned the GOP to Demographic Doom?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Credit where due:

    Lindsey "Bum Kisser" Graham was once the Republican Party Cassandra:

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    “We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party!"
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/sen-lindsey-graham-gop-facing-demographic-death-sp/

    To be sure, there are enough less-educated, older white males to still sustain the trumped-up GOP in some regions for a while, but sad mortality doth o'ersway their fate.

     
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  2. Lil Mike

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    So...is this a complaint or a celebration?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A demographic doom of constant winning? I sure hope so. What's doom and gloom for you folks tends to be great for America...
     
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    Neither. Just an empirical analysis that cites electoral trends, quotes a few Republican analysts, and references Forbes regarding educational demography.

    Are the national electoral results of 2018 predictive of 2020? Who knows?
     
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    An empirical analysis would usually include some sort of data, not snarling pics of Trump and Graham, but I suppose that's what passes for data these days.
     
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    Probably not you.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    Only to Democrats that like creativity over facts and reality.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you need to fixate on the graphics rather than the substantive content, I'm glad the illustrative enhancements work for you.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Of course not. One can only honestly cite the demonstrable trend. Whether past is prelude remains to be seen.
     
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    I think you will be sadly disappointed results of this election. It will be better than the last. I just donated $210.00 to Trump's campaign in your honor. There is a triple match on it so the total donation is $840.00. MAGA!!!!

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    I really have no particular expectations, actually.

    Graham noting that the Republican Party is "in a demographic death spiral", Republican operatives bemoaning the affinity of younger, better-educated Americans for the Democratic Party, and the GOP's increasing dependency upon aging, less-educated White males is an ongoing trend without a timetable. It could even, inexplicably, reverse itself.

    The least-educated states, as reported by Forbes above, can all be expected to cast their electoral votes for Trump in 2020, just as the best-educated will go Democratic, but neither alone will be determinative.
     
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    For realists, Trump's fantasies such as thousands of invisible folks in New Jersey cheering for terrorists, millions of invisible folks costing him a popular vote victory, and billions of invisible folks cavorting in ecstasy at his cotillion on the Washington Mall are conspicuously lacking any discernible association with reality.

    Given the prevailing political preference of younger, better-educated Americans, increasingly racial diverse, as well as women, particularly suburbanites, the progression toward the Democratic Party is undeniable.

    If you are aware of any reputable surveys that contradict all I have seen, please indicate where they can be found.
     
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    Meanwhile the Dem Party is openly embracing a Socialist/Marxist candidate in a nation that traditionally has been very, very opposed to such things. So one can assume that Trump is destroying the GOP while people admit to being very happy under Trump -- leftists aside -- or one can assume that the open embrace of Marxist by the political Left is too much too soon and is going to result in damage to the Dem Party with -- if nothing else -- the loss of control of the House of Representatives at the end of 2020. It's a wait and see situation.
     
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    I bet you still think that the impeachment was a good thing for Democrats. I bet you also still think that that hoax of an investigation didn't backfire on the Democrats.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Your false claims notwithstanding, my posts here consistently confirm that I opposed the impeachment, although I recognized that Trump's pressuring a foreign power to discredit a political opponent made it necessary, and I am glad the truth has been exposed, and will continue to emerge despite Trump's attempts to gag witnesses and hide it from the American people deeper than his promised tax returns. Truth matters.​

    I see that radio entertainer Limbaugh - one of the Trump-bum-kisser phonies who brayed that fellow Trump bum kisser Cesar Sayoc was a "False Flag!" bomber is now lying about the Coronavirus, and the usual goons are actually swallowing this Trumpiepoop as eagerly as the one about Obama being a foreign-born Muslim.

    Hilarious!

     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Actually, such social welfare programs as Social Security and Medicare have been and remain extremely popular with Americans.

    All advanced, democratic nations are enlightened integrations of capitalism and socialism. Neither unbridled capitalism, nor doctrinal fascism, nor submissive totalitarianism, nor slavish marxism, nor any other -ism is about to supplant good old American pragmatism.

    Rather than labeling to promote or denigrate, I am optimistic because of the progress that demographic changes portend. Increasing diversity and greater participation of women in the political process augment the increasingly better-educated citizenry.

    There is a very strong correlation between a state's level of educational attainment and its ideological disposition, most blatant at the polarities.

    That in no way disparages or aggrandizes the denizens of any state, but is simply one significant, objective, empirical, demographic indicator.

    For a growing number of Americans, a good education is the ticket to a better future. College opens doors to more career opportunities, higher earnings and new social connections, among other benefits. But how much schooling one receives also matters to some extent. Generally, the higher the level of education one completes, the higher their income potential and the lower their chances of unemployment become.

    In this study, WalletHub examined the key factors of a well-educated population: educational attainment, school quality and achievement gaps between genders and races. We compared all 50 states across 18 total metrics grouped into two categories. The data set ranges from share of adults aged 25 years and older with at least a high school diploma to average university quality to gender gap in educational attainment.

    1 Massachusetts

    2 Maryland

    3 Colorado

    4 Vermont

    5 Connecticut

    6 Virginia

    7 Washington

    8 New Hampshire

    9 New Jersey

    10 Minnesota


    11 Utah

    12 Illinois

    13 New York

    14 Oregon

    15 Hawaii


    ...

    37 Indiana

    38 Arizona

    39 Texas

    40 Oklahoma

    41 Tennessee


    42 New Mexico

    43 Nevada


    44 South Carolina

    45 Kentucky

    46 Alabama

    47 Arkansas

    48 Louisiana

    49 West Virginia

    50 Mississippi

    States designated in red assigned their electoral votes to Trump in 2016.

    States designated in blue assigned their electoral votes to Clinton.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/e/most-educated-states/31075/

     
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    Bernie Sanders has left behind enough reeking video segment interviews over the decades to prove that he really is a radical Socialist and mostly Marxist to boot. If he wins the nomination then he and the Dem Party will be beaten around the head and shoulder with them. As for the rest it is just more of the traditional 'What you are seeing and hearing is not what is really happening," garbage from politically and ideologically invested leftists. It's blatant political propaganda.
     
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    Realistically, as a practical matter, no POTUS can singlehandedly impose Trump's hyped "something terrific!" healthcare that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!" upon the nation.

    The woefully naïve may fantasize that the aspirational is a guarantee or even a fait accompli, but experience indicates otherwise.
     
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    You never answered my question.
     
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    You spoke of making a bet. I explained to you your errancy.
     
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    No you didn't. You generated a bunch of gibberish topped with a red herring.
     
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    You posted, "I bet you still think that the impeachment was a good thing for Democrats."

    I explained to you the fake premise of your wager. I had consistently opposed the impeachment until the flagrancy of Fake Don's perfidy made it necessarily as a Constitutional mandate, and I never speculated regarding a political benefit for anyone.

    If you allege otherwise, please cite my posted words to support your phony claim.
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    So in other words, no data.
     
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    This just seems like more typical Democrat/neo-communist race baiting.

    Democrats/neo-commies say things like 150 million people died from guns, but they don't want to ban guns... you shouldn't take them seriously.
     
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    I'm new here, but I'll take a stab at that:

     

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