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  1. Xenamnes

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    Even if what is being stated on the part of yourself is indeed the truth, even if the founding fathers did engage in the counting of every single lead ball, measuring every grain of black powder, and detailing who owned what type of firearm, it would still not make any difference in the matter, as the precedent then is not the precedent of now. With the united states military, and the united states national guard, the people are not being called upon to defend the nation against all enemies, be them foreign or domestic. And as the people are not being called upon to defend the nation, the united states government is devoid of a legal, legitimate, or compelling reason to know who owns what firearms, and where they may be located at any given time. There is no legitimate reason to maintain a list of known firearm owners in the united states.

    Times have changed. Both the government and the people regard one another as enemies of each other. The government does not serve the people, it serves itself and does everything to try and control the people through hundreds of thousands of regulations. The precedent being spoken of by yourself is gone, and nothing can be done to get it back.
     
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    The lists were to regulate militia membership - they in no way tracked everyone who owned a firearm, nor did they track firearms.
     
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    The homicide rate is about half of what is was in 1996. Surely if it is an epidemic now, and deserved of attention, it would have been in all of the years since 1996.
     
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    NOTHING in the Constitution as CHANGED to make a database of firearms and their owners unconstitutional so that ranting screed is meaningless drivel.

    Only a very small paranoid subset of Americans consider that the government of We the People is their "enemy".

    Paranoids owning guns has become a serious problem in America which is why so many medical doctors are legitimately concerned.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Lack of factual subject matter knowledge pertaining to the Militia Acts is duly noted and the fallacies ignored for obvious reasons.
     
  6. Derideo_Te

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    Cherry picking duly noted as it disqualifies itself from any response needed!
     
  7. squidward

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    He can't.
    But he might reference his professor who told him so
     
  8. Xenamnes

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    Nothing in the united states constitution makes a firearms database and/or registry constitutional either. Absolutely nothing. Not one single provision, not one single sentence, authorizes the collecting of such information and retaining it indefinitely.

    Such as those that were forced to purchase health insurance that they do not need, and cannot afford, under threat of legal penalties for noncompliance?

    They are free to be concerned to whatever degree comforts them. But their concerns are not a legitimate basis for attempting to implement as-of-yet undefined legislation.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    NRA makes laws?
    If you look at the funding source...
    "This project was supported by awards between the National Academy of Sciences and both the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (#200-2011-38807) and the CDC Foundation with the Foundation’s support originating from The Annie E. Casey Foundation"

    It isn't uncommon for the CDC to fund their studies to be conducted by third parties or select committees. The funding was part of 10m allocated by Obama by executive order for that purpose.
     
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  10. Vegas giants

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    Hello yeah the NRA makes laws
     
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    Incorrect that is managed by NHTSA.
     
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    More misinformation.

    Civics 101 the Legislature creates laws not the NRA, get it?
     
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    The NRA writes the laws and then owns the guys that pass the bills
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    prove it
     
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    Marion hammer
     
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    That proves nothing, I doubt you have any idea what Marion actually does either.

    USF
     
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    You don't know what she does?
     
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    Yes I do, I have worked with her.

    Ever heard of the Jack Hagler Self Defense Act?
     
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    I have now. It must be nice to write your own laws
     
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    Once again you are incorrect, the statute was written in the Florida House and matched in the Florida Senate and after four years of haggling was finally passed and signed into law.

    My part was to lobby literally door to door, both in Tallahassee and statewide to encourage law abiding firearm owners to join us in getting it passed.

    The Legislature listened to the people and we where able to overcome the rabid and very misinformed anti-gunners who where opposing the law.

    And that is how representative government works, nothing under the table or backstabbing, (that's the anti's MO) it was just a matter of getting enough law abiding firearm owners to join in and encourage their representatives to do as they requested.

    Then much to the chagrin of the anti-gunners, after the law was passed, violent crime in Florida went down, as such we encouraged freedom and safety at the same time, with the passing of the Act.

    Something no anti can ever claim.

    BTW I take it USF went right over your head which clearly demonstrates you no nothing about Marion Hammer.
     
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    really-all they cared about was making sure each man had a suitable weapon. They didn't care what his wife owned or how many other guns he had. Trying to pretend that is the same as the federal government having the power to register every privately owned firearm is specious nonsense
     
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    he's just making stuff up now. the most telling destruction of his argument is not one of the gun control laws foisted upon us by the gun banning party-is that not a single law is based on the militia acts
     
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    How does an honest person say these two statements are the same

    1) we need evidence you have a suitable firearm if you are called up to serve

    and

    2) we need a list of every single firearm in your home?
     
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    She wrote that law word for word and got her paid off buddies to pass it
     
  25. Daniel Light

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    Here's the problem with claiming violent crime went down after passing your gun possession statute - Violent crime went down almost EVERYWHERE in the US after topping off in the late 80's ... even in NY City with it's more strict gun laws - so you're really stretching cause and effect with your claim.
     
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