Have the Democrats illegally stolen this election through fraud?

So . . . the sworn affidavits that include things like "I saw someone rolling their eyes" and "A big scary black guy was wearing a BLM shirt," but which have no actual evidence of fraud . . . the affidavits that the Trump legal team has admitted are full of "spam and lies" . . . the affidavits that the courts have found no substance regarding . . . those affidavits?

I think you misunderstood my question. You see, I was asking for evidence. Understand now?

 

If so, Republicans are so incompetent, who the hell wants them in charge?

 

Give an example. One with some teeth to it. And how to fix it.

 

That means republicans are too stupid and incompetent to take part in elections or anything else if Dems can cheat so easily with the republicans and dems working hand in hand in election processes.
Too incompetent and stupid to put in charge of anything? Why would anyone vote for such incompetence as these fraud claims makes the Republicans look?

 

There you go jumping to conclusions. Absolutely we need honest vote counting, but we also have rule of law. Rule of law means accepting the law that is in place. One can always find fault and correctly assert it could be better (perfection is impossible), but the time to make it better is prior to an election.

As I've said multiple times, fraud needs to be proven, not assumed (again: rule of law). So far, the only proven fraud has been isolated cases of individuals casting a ballot of a dead person.

 

Well, except for the hundreds of pages of sworn testimony from witnesses, the foreign software and hardware used designed specifically to change vote counts, and the states that broke their own laws and violated the Constitution, you might have something.

 

Give me some specifics on these affidavits have proven. The only references I've seen entail observers stating suspicions. I'd very much like to know what real fraud has been exposed. Give me the worst ones.

 

Provide evidence the software and/or hardware is designed to change vote counts.

Identify states that broke their own laws, and the laws they broke.

 

That is what the courts are for. The worst one is the one democrats were worried about before but conveniently ignore now and that is the foreign voting machines and software and that reporting to foreign servers. That is why servers were confiscated in Germany by US officials.

 

Good lord. I am not your nanny. The information is readily available if you know how to Google.

 

This is so predictable. We knw that when president Trump lost he would seek revenge by inflicting as much as much damage on the country as possible. I always get a big laugh whe right wingers talk about how much he loves America.

 

I think when Biden said he didn't need you to win the election and they had put together the most inclusive voter fraud organization in history, he let his dementia speak.

 

Ah, the left is still screaming uselessly at the sky. Priceless.

 

The courts have rejected affidavits because they were unsubstantiated and did not identify specific fraudulent activities. They were obtained over the internet, and anyone could submit one.

More importantly, if there is/was a factual fraud problem, Trump's attorneys needed to identify the specific fraud and use the affidavits to support the accusation. They did not.

It's sad that the only specific issue you brought up was the debunked internet rumor about confiscating voting machines. See this.

I have looked and looked, and have found no credible allegations. Given the fact that the one specific you cited is a debunked internet rumor, it seems that you are a bit too eager to find stories that confirm your unsupported belief there was widespread fraud.

I am willing to be proven wrong. Are you?

 

A couple of state court cases rejected is not the end of anything. More cases are being entered as we speak this week. Some are federal.

 

If he cared about this country, he would have allowed the transition to commence. This would not require him to admit defeat, it would just be an acknowledgment that Biden might win. America Trump first.

 

No President elect yet so who would transition, especially after all the irregularities? Never stopped dems, aka 2000.

 

There is no honest comparison. 2000 was down to ONE state and a FEW HUNDRED votes in that state. Trump would need to reverse the elections in several states, and there are tens of thousand of votes standing in his way in those states. Whoever told you they were comparable was lying to you.

People voting against your candidate isn't an "irregularity." He lost. Time for him to put on some big boy pants. If he wants to pout like a particularly maladjusted toddler until December 14th, fine. But let's not kid ourselves. He'll still be throwing his tantrums after that. So will many of his followers.

 

Not fond of the Constitution or the law eh?

 

Not fond of reading posts eh?

 

You apparently think only a democrat can initiate a lawsuit and not concede after Nov 3rd.

 

Again, please actually try reading the post. Why is that too much to ask for? If you refuse to read, there's nothing to respond to.

 

The delay in starting the transition in 2000 was deservedly criticized. Even the 9/11 commission suggested it may have contributed to the failure of intelligence. When mistakes are made, the intelligent and patriotic thing to do is to learn from those mistakes. The childish thing to do is payback. We're in the middle of a pandemic, and need to plan for distribution of a vaccine.

Irregularities? I've been begging you guys to identify some, but everyone keeps pointing to debunked internet rumors, and affidavits that were not accepted into evidence. Anyone who thinks Trump has more than a longshot at overturning the election is living in dreamland - but if you indeed believe that, put your money where your mouth is -I'll bet you $20 (payable through paypal).

 

I wouldn't hold your breath. I had a bet going with one of these guys regarding the popular vote and they backed out after it was over.

 

Mail dumping by a few postal workers. You could debate that it wasn't fraud but instead, laziness or them being overwhelmed so they just threw out the mail. Either way it needs addressed.

The solution I am going to propose will increase security in many areas.
I propose a redundant voting system where you have to vote electronically via a blockchain voting system when you cast your mail in vote.
One method would to have a print out verification card that contains your ballot that you can sign and send in the mail.
Another method is to keep them complely separate but that makes the process more lengthy for voters since you basically have to vote twice in two different ways.

The benefits are as follows.

1) A faster counting process, where mail can arrive as late as it needs since you can initially rely on electronic vote totals.
2) The number of votes received electronically should match the number of votes sent in the mail and if not, it would be an indicator that there are missing Mail-In votes.
3) If a mail in vote goes missing, your vote can still be counted via the alternate method.
4) This enables us to test more modern systems without jeopardizing or risking the integrity of the election and ensure a easier voting platform in the future.
5) The e-vote system cannot be hacked. They would have to both hack the e-vote system and somehow mail out a bunch of votes from people's addresses with their signature.
6) Special circumstances can be made to vote electronically or only by mail depending on a persons situation allowing for more people to have access to voting. Ie.. Electronically for people overseas like military. Mail-in only for special low income individuals who cannot afford internet.

Call me a socialist but I think there should be basic internet for everyone as it's essential for everything including education, social, news etc... But I digress