Hawaii proposes repeal of the Second Amendment .....

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  1. Xenamnes

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    Firearms ownership and use is a constitutionally recognized and protected right, codified into the united states constitution itself, making it absolutely no different than freedom of speech, freedom of association, or freedom from cruel and unusual punishment. If one feels their rights are being made subject to attack by those tasked with respecting said rights, they have a legitimate reason to be upset at the perceived threat.
     
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    Why? We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

    And,

    The People shall not be Infringed in the keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.
     
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    I am so tired of the dishonesty intrinsic to such comments. In short, they're bald faced lies. The NRA is simply trying to ensure the Second Amendment is respected and acknowledged as equal to the rest of the Bill of Rights... and the Left despises them for it, and it reveals them for the traitorous scum they are.

    Very totalitarian philosophy you have there, Adolph.
     
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    Exactly why I've stopped trying to reason with the likes of you.
     
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    Sure. I use ligit research facilities and you use the criminal INTENT NRA.
     
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    I guess we know your intent then as an nra backer.
     
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    Sure......it’s getting so you need a Russian translator to decide what the leaders of the nra want to do next with our constitution.
     
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    Spare me your partisan nonsense. The lies of the antigun left are well-documented, as is their hatred of the Constitution.
     
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    "400,000 scientists" published in these journals to advance their careers and to rig or avoid peer review.

    MOTHER JONES, 400,000 Scientists All Over the World Have Been Published in Fake Journals, Journalists investigated widespread fraud within the scientific publishing community., BY KARI SONDEJUL. 20, 2018.
    https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/07/real-news-tackles-fake-science/
     
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    And the right to self defense is a fundamental human right.
     
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    We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

    The right wing likes to whine about socialism; let's abolish the socialism of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; we should be mustering the militia until we have no security problems in our free States. We do not need the Expense of our nationalized and socialized, alleged wars on crime, drugs, or terror.
     
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    The peer review process has been deliberately compromised by scientists.

    "Can’t take criticism? Just make up your own reviews! It may sound far-fetched, but we’ve now counted more than 270 retractions, more than half of them this year, which occurred because authors or editors compromised the peer-review process in some way—most egregiously, some authors faked email addresses for peer reviewers and gave their own papers a green light."
    THE SCIENTIST, The Top 10 Retractions of 2015, A look at this year’s most memorable retractions, By Retraction Watch | December 23, 2015.
    https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/44895/title/The-Top-10-Retractions-of-2015/

    Published scientific data has been unreliable for decades. Now that so much Fake Science is being exposed no one should have blind faith in published scientific data.
     
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    Good post. Big Government is seldom a good answer for any problem.
     
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    Hitler was for gun control and animal rights, but few gun control and animal rights activists are Nazis.
    Please try to resist the temptation to make this personal. Most gun control activists in the US believe gun control will save lives.

    Of course they are wrong, but in America they have a right to be. ;-)
     
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    Sure, they have a right to their own opinions; but their self-righteousness, arrogance, and childishness are beyond tiresome... and they are attacking one of my most fundamental liberties, and disparaging my character for resisting their agenda.
     
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    You can hit opinions arguments and evidence hard, but avoid going personal. This place needs all sides to be active and involved. PF vets seem to have grown thicker skins but it is always a bad idea to leave mod bait around. Most of the toughest partisan advocates here, on every side, will eventually engage in substantive rebuttal if you keep posting hard evidence. Which is. not to say that evidence will always be well received. :)
     
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    State legislatures are responsible for organizing sufficient militia to ensure the security of our free States.
     
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    Volunteers deputized by local elected Sheriffs could probably handle most security problems very easily with minimal use of force.
     
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    Fair point.
     
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    All scientist in all fields ? Or just the ones that the idiot savant Trump disagrees with ? It has to be embarrassing thinking you’re smarter then every scientist in fields you have no education in as ztrump does.
    Because peer review is the proof process of all science and you now deem it compromised , how do you dare to start your car in the morning. You must live in constant fear. Peer review science is responsible for maintaining 90 plus percent of our economy..
    I guess we’re just lucky we’ve survived this far on prayer...
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    Ha ha. You have to be kidding. Were you ever in law enforcement ? Guess not. Just deputized any volunteer . Wow.....you have a day job while putting in 40 hours of volunteer work and vols don’t even know the ten code. Whose paying for their gas and liability insurance ?
     
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    We hate the constitution ?
     
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    No, the real reason is, you have no reliable references, just the sad commentary from equally Un informed brethren...
     
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    That is incorrect. Peer review just means an idea is published. The process of science is to find out if the idea is falsifiable. There are many issues in peer review which are also written about as peer review papers. If you just rely on something that is peer reviewed you are not relying on science since most peer reviewed papers do not stand the test of time.
     
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