Hawking and Krauss

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks. I see I wasn't that far off. Most atheists are under 30 and outgrow it as they mature.

    Obviously you have a reason. I have reasons to think there is more to existence than just being ambulatory meat-computers responding solely to biochemical programming and of no more value than their component parts. Obviously major atheists like Stalin and Mao believe exactly that which is why they had no problem murdering millions of people. After all, why not? Murder is simply a means to an end. There's nothing wrong with it....at least according to them.

    Atheists and Marxists love to crow about how religion is "the opium of the people". While there is a direct correlation between the level of belief in religions and poverty, which atheists and Marxists love to bleat about, what they don't understand, or, more likely, are obscuring, is that even though more affluent and educated societies are moving away from religion, they are not leaving spirituality. They continue to explore the idea that there is more to existence than what they see in front of their face.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-now-say-theyre-spiritual-but-not-religious/
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    Interesting belief. :D
     
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    all the evidence of God's existence is idiotic. I already read them a lot. Therefore, I do not believe in God. By the way Swedes are 85% atheists and they are over 30 years old.
     
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    Agreed, kid. There is no evidence of God's existence. That's why it's a matter of faith, not fact.

    You might want to take a deeper look at Sweden instead of just cherry-picking what you like. Not only are they a different, albeit smaller, culture, but there are inconsistencies in their religious beliefs: https://sweden.se/society/10-fundamentals-of-religion-in-sweden/

    Note that they are also much more tolerant of differing beliefs than you are, so maybe you'll learn something from that example.
     
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    learn logic, physics, biology and history. Then you will become an atheist. More interested in the opposite point of view, doubt your own. Seek the truth and become an atheist
     
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    I'm smarter than you
     
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    Kid, not only have I studied those subjects, but I was an atheist long before you were an embryo. Like most atheists, I grew out of it. OTOH, I didn't turn into a church-goer blindly accepting everything in the Bible. When you mature, maybe you'll learn the world is in full color, not just the two-color palette you choose to see it.

    ROFLMAO. Okay, kid. Believe as you wish. I learned a long time ago that it's irrational to expect reason from an irrational person. You might consider pondering that truism.
     
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    The proofs of atheism by physicists Hawking and Krauss are the most complex (newest) Books The Supreme Plan and the Universe from Nothing
    The universe has no reason
    Slightly less sophisticated are the biologists Darwin, Dawkins and Markov (new)
    Man originated from an ancient animal
    Even less complicated is the philosopher Aristotle about the laws of logic (old)
    There is no reason to believe in God because there is no consistent notion of him
    The simplest proof of atheism is the historical (ancient)
    Atheists have always been. Even in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. The Bible is based on a more ancient Sumerian mythology. God came up later than the spirits. There used to be totemism, animism and shamanism, and God was invented later. The first people were atheists.
     

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