Health care system from the US seen by a german guy

Hey,
I want to share with you my views about healthcare systems especilly in the us. I was really wondering why the us is giving out more money than almost any other nation per capita, espicilly the ones in western europe. Why are so many americans opposing basic health insurance for everyone who cant afford one.
Also, people without health insurance cost alot of money because they dont go to the doctor early with a few symptoms, instead they could very likely end as an emergency at an hospital, which can be extremely expensive. For example in Germany we have a system of public and private health insurance, the public health insurances will pay basically for everything you need, but the private insurances can have some extras.
In my opinion the Us should have a very basic health insurance covering a few doctor visits a year, if a more serious illness occurs more. Also it shouldnt pay for very expensive medicine when theres a less effective but cheap alternative. Richer people could buy into better insurnce classes then.

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I really want to know what makes your medical system so expensive although its not much better then most of europes.

 

We don't pay too much, you pay too little. We pay for new drugs and innovations. Europe is a charity case. Mooching off the system almost as much as Africa.

Also we want to keep our local doctor at the local practice, we don't want hospital medical care and long wait times.

 

Last October I had abdominal pain, went to my local doctor, without appointment, waited 20 minutes and after a first checkup I was sent to a nearby urologist. Waited there less than 20 minutes and after a closer checkup he made the diagnosis of a rupture. Next went to a hospital, free to chose the one i want, got a checkup up and all the pre OP stuff. Next day I was operated and the next day i could go home and my local doctor did a lookup a few days later. All with a public healthcare insurance. I had only to pay some Euros because I wanted a single bed room.

I'm pretty satisfied with our system, although the costs for the bureaucracy could be lowered.

 

post 2 is correct. enjoy your cheap meds courtesy of the US taxpayer. While you are at it start paying your fair share for NATO

 

I don't see any coherence between the german health system and the US taxpayer.

OT: Nato obligation sees a 2 % contribution by 2024, enough time for increases, last year over 8 %.

 

BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)!!!

The real reason why America pays more for it's medication is that you allow the companies to charge that amount. If you had a single payer system like Australia you would stop a lot of gouging

 

I have yet to read what those in Germany or in Australia pay per month for health care.

How about actual number.

Monthly costs
Are you paying any extra?
Deductibles included?

How much of your gross earnings get paid for health care per year?

 

I have to pay about 300 € monthly, my employer about the same. It depends on your wage, income from other sources, like shares or renting properties don't count. That's for the whole family, as long as they don't have an income by themselves, children until they finish their education. You can impove your public insurance by private insurances, so you can avoid extra costs, for glasses and so on and some convenient stuff, like a single bed room in hospital. At the pharmacy you have to pay a prescription charge, between 5 to 10 €, chronic sick people can be freed from this obligation.

Above a certain income you can avoid the public health system and get a complete private insurance. That will save some money when you are young but the costs can raise dramatic when you're getting older and you have to pay for your relatives. You can be worse off, higher costs and less benefits than in the public system. With a private insurance you get your appointments a bit quicker but in the end you are normally in the same hospital and the local doctors have a mixed clientele.

 

nope, he is correct you dont know what you are talking about

 

that doesnt surprise me. lets get real about NATO https://www.stripes.com/news/german...igger-nato-contribution-1.450741#.WLVhI_nytPY the german military is a joke.

 

It's still OT, but our neighbours were very happy that the german army decreased it's number from 600.000 after the reunification to a merely joke. In the last 20 years the military was neglected by our governments through different reasons. You don't win a single voter by military expenses, we had to clean up the communist mess in eastern Germany, about 2 trillions spent and we had to stabilize eastern Europe with our west european partners. To our military budget you can add about 5 billion Euros spent to maintain the american military infrastructure in Germany, which is hidden in various german budgets. In my opinion the quality and the quantity of the german army decreased too much but every german gorvernment has a hard stand to justify every Euro spent for the military. The 20 billions are not the problem since we have a balanced budget in the last years, but the lack of political will and a lack of people willing to serve in the army.

Maybe the US should have used the 2 trillions which have been spent to (*)(*)(*)(*) up Iraq for their citzens.

 

maybe germany should abide by its agreements and stop being a cheat.

 

Maybe you can wait until 2024, that's the agreement. Maybe we should discuss that elsewhere, since we're still complete OT.

 

actually the 2% thing started in the 90's. there is nothing to discuss your post and germany is dishonest.

 

Actually the agreement is from 2002. There are 24 Nato partner which don't reach the 2%, it's a club of dishonest countries. Much fun for the US with the 2% UK, they have two nice new aircraft carriers but not the money for the airplanes. Stupid money doesn't defend countries either.

 

you are getting your lies confused.

 

Profit. What do you expect when rich people can make themselves even richer at the expense of people's lives. We basically subsidize the entire world on pharmaceuticals and medical devices, where those prices are regulated.

But we have too many blind fools in this country that thinks greed is good

 

Name my lies!

By the way the dishonest US don't pay their UN contributions.

 

another lie http://www.un.org/en/ga/about/art19.shtml

 

The US debts to UN are about 800 million. But be proud, at least the US have a better willingness to pay than Libya.

 

I just showed you that that's not the case but you keep insisting the only can thing I can think is you must be one of Putin's Kremlin trolls

 

Your links just showed countries which lost their right to vote in the assembly because they payed nothing for more than two years and no information about the US debts. Posting pointless links i assume that you are a Trump troll.

 

Germany has an inferior refugee policy, while the United States has an inferior healthcare system.

One kills your culture, the other kills your earnings.

Pick your poison.

 

Not true you're misinterpreting it

 

Just read the stuff in your link, nothing to misinterpret. Maybe i can't see the alternative facts you have discovered there.