Healthy kids don't need vaccine.

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Don't get it, then you don't pass it on.

    Anyway, it's not my civic duty to put myself at risk by wearing a surgical mask.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a better solution for you. Don't leave your house or invite anyone in.
     
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    A snarky remark because I used this effective, inexpensive P100 respirator to protect myself…?

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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps so, but in all honesty what I was responding to appeared smug. The science says the N95 mask is meant to protect others from the carrier. It was a selling point of the mask mandates. Your mask is only meant to protect you.
     
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    What I don't get I can't pass on.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But isn't that ignoring the fact that you can get covid from someone who is asymptomatic that visits your home? Or do you wear a mask even then?
     
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    Oh, trust me, you can pass it on and not even know it.
     
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    Yes, but my P100 respirator makes it less likely I'll get an asymptomatic infection, too.
     
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    No, I was potentially exposed in such situations. I wore the P100 respirator in public settings.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the P100 respirator is only designed to protect the wearer, how did you protect others from you, if you were infected?
     
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    By not getting a SARS-CoV-2 infection.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you actually read what I asked? If you're not going to just let me know and I won't waste our time with this discussion.
     
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    Of course, I read your post. Are you in the habit of not reading the entirety of what others write?

    I have protected others by not getting covid and the P100 respirator definitely protected me when I wasn't able to socially distance.

    It seems your looking for a mea culpa. Sorry, I'm not a handwringer, anti-vaxxer or Fauci follower. P100 respirators are effective protection if worn properly. Perfect protection? No, of course not.

    You might recall I repeatedly said my respirator provides no protection for others if the wearer is infected. Why do you keep asking me the same question? You know about asking the same question over and over again hoping for a different answer...
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you actually understood my question you would have noticed it was framed under the assumption that you WERE infected. But, I withdraw my question. I see no point in wasting any more time on this discussion with you.
     
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    Maybe you should have said you'll stop asking me the same question over and over again when I already answered it by pointing out it provides no direct protection for others because it has a one-way valve.
     
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    Let me help you with that one as well. He said “potentially infected” because the mask he wears is extremely effective at protecting him from getting infected. Because he is wearing this mask, he is stopping himself from getting infected and therefore passing on infection to others. It’s that simple.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me help you out, also. I'll refer you to post #106.
     
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    I doubt any person would wear a mask 100 percent of the time. I believe the ‘what I don’t get I can’t pass on’ was referring to being out in a public setting wearing a mask not in ones on home. There are always scenarios where one can get infected despite wearing a mask in public. The point is wearing a good N95 mask out in public is very protective, it lessens the chances of getting infected and then later passing the infection on to others. If somebody enters your home with asymptomatic infection perhaps that person got infected in a public place by some person who wasn’t wearing a mask and because they weren’t wearing a mask themselves, who knows. The bottom line is your scenario has absolutely nothing do with the efficacy or usefulness of masks. If more people wore N95 masks, there would be less infections with covid.
     
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    That was the point of my question. A person can be an unsuspecting carrier of the virus able to transmit it to you if you're not wearing PPE at all times. An impractical lifestyle. In such a scenario, you then are able to spread the virus if you're wearing an improper face mask, which a P100 is. You'll never see a surgeon wearing one. Why? Because it has an exhalation vent.

    https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/09/08/source-control/

    The proper wearing of the N95 provides the best protection against the spread of the virus. However, there are far too many people that don't follow the proper use of them. Facial hair is a no-one for one thing because it prevents a proper fit. Then I see many people twisting the straps which creates gaps in the mask. That's a no-no. Bottom line -- despite the mask mandates the spread of the virus continued. Most people just aren't aware of the risks that are possible even when wearing a mask and get sloppy.
     
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    The thing is, no one needed it.
     
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    Most reasonable people knew this. The vaxx was about authoritarianism, not safety.
     
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    And Mabye it didn’t.
     
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    Masking is ineffective for anything but droplets. Cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze you are just as effectively protecting those around you as if masking full time.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I still see people coughing and/or sneezing into their hands. And many people improperly wearing masks. And people wondered why covid was a pandemic. Maybe healthcare should be a required curriculum in grade school.
     
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    It is. Children and adults by nature are dirty. There is no way you should expect people do the right thing when it comes to health. Its just not realistic. Solution you do the right thing, and lead by example. Don't turn crazy and go all Howard Hughes germaphobe. Just relax about disgusting homo sapiens and do your best. I choose to take public transport and I see what you say of course. I am not sure we will ever have a perfect world but it is probably also god for your health to stay calm over things you have no control over.

    note to all gun lovers on this forum: no buying a gun won't help

    note to all Trump supporters: keep your messiah locked up he has rabies

    note to Joe Biden: Joe I love you but retire before someone sneezes in your face and you fall over and die
     

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