Heat wave over Greenland causing massive ice melt

DennisTate · Aug 4, 2019

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Read the entire article ???
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AboveAlpha summarized that article ..... and predicted this situation........ several years ago in a language that I could understand much more easily!

Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

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We have passed a THRESHOLD as no matter what we do we have gone BEYOND THE POINT OF A FIX as far as CLIMATE CHANGE.

NOTHING we do from this point on will stop the melting of the Northern and Southern Polar Sea Ice and the Greenland Glaciers.

Here in lies the problem and if you want to learn more run a search on this.....CDIAC.....CARBON DIOXIDE INFORMATION ANALYSIS CENTER.

The CDIAC is a part of the U.S. DOE...DEPT. OF ENERGY'S OFFICE OF SCIENCE at Oak Ridge National Labs.

If you watch the top of the web page there is a chart and every 20 to 30 seconds or so the CHART CHANGES and will give you the WORLD'S MOST ACCURATE AND UNBIASED DATA concerning CO2, CH4...which is METHANE which exists at the bottom of all Earth's Ocean's Arctic Lakes and within Permafrost and Tundra and CH4 holds in HEAT in our Atmosphere at a rate of approx.71 TIMES GREATER THAN CO2

The CH4 at the bottom of the Oceans and in Permafrost and Arctic Lakes exists as CH4 GEL or Methane Gel.

The Human generated emmisions of CO2 have warmed up the Earth's Ocean's and thus Air to a point that is CAUSING THE GEL FORM CH4 TO BUBBLE UP AND OUT INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE AS METHANE GAS!!!

This is how DIRE the problem is....the U.S. DOE's Office of Science's CDIAC is the ONLY DATA the U.S. Military considers to be trustworthy and viable thus this data is imputted into either Banked and Networked IBM Supercomputers or is imputted into the U.S. Military's new QUANTUM COMPUTERS for ONE SOLE PURPOSE!!!

That purpose is TO PLAN FOR THE EVENTUALITY OF WORLDWIDE WAR OVER RESOURCES!!!

What is going to happen and NOT MAYBE HAPPEN but WILL HAPPEN is this......when too much FRSH WATER is dumped into the NORTH ATLANTIC CURRENT or GULF STREAM which is a OCEAN WATER HEAT EXCHANGE SYSTEM.....as Warm Gulf of Mexico Water in a very strong current flows around the tip of Florida and up North up the East Coast and then angles across the Atlantic Ocean to the British Isles...which is by the U.K. which is further North than Massachusetts has much milder winters......

.....well the WARM WATER is LIGHTER and travels upon the top of the bottom COLD WATER THERMOCLINE....which is the COLD WATER flowing from the Arctic Ocean around Greenland and above the U.K. as this colder heavier water flows underneither the warmer lighter water coming up from the Gulf of Mexico......

......well there will come a day....SOON.....when the Earth has warmed up just a single degree to much and this will cause so much Polar and Greenland FRESH WATER ICE MELT....as the ICE that covers Greenland and the North Polar Arctic Ocean is FRESH WATER.....and because it is FRESH WATER....IT IS LIGHTER THAN OCEAN SALT WATER........

.......because of this when too much LIGHTER FRESH WATER MELTS AND IS DUMPED INTO THE NORTH ATLANTIC....as it is cold water but NOT SALT WATER....IT WILL WEIGH ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME WEIGHT AS THE WARM SALT WATER THAT IS FLOWING UP FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO AROUND THE TIP OF FLORIDA AND UP NORTH AND ACROSS THE ATLANTIC.

When this happens the Cold but FRESH WATER melted from Global Warming will STALL THE WARM SALT WATER TRAVELING NORTH FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO.

Thus warm water will stop flowing NORTH and the COLD WATER will STOP FLOWING SOUTH....as the COLD WATER will reach a point of desalinization so that it weighs the same as the WARM SALT WATER TRYING TO TRAVEL NORTH.

This will STALL THE NORTH ATLANTIC CURRENT'S HEAT TRANSFER SYSTEM!!!

And GUESS what happens next??

Have you ever watched the movie THE DAY AFTER TOMMORROW????

If you have....then you understand.

AboveAlpha
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AFM · Aug 4, 2019

DennisTate said: ↑

AboveAlpha summarized that article ..... and predicted this situation........ several years ago in a language that I could understand much more easily!

Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?
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If you truly believe the earth is turning into Venus why bother posting ???

Why has the ridiculous scenario not happened in the previous 9 Holocene warming periods ???

What does Mann have to say ???

DennisTate · Aug 4, 2019

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If you truly believe the earth is turning into Venus why bother posting ???

Why has the ridiculous scenario not happened in the previous 9 Holocene warming periods ???

What does Mann have to say ???
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Because I actually believe that the earth will be utopian by 2185 but we humans have the power of choice and we could mess it up if we don't become informed and make better decisions.

This is what G-d wants for us.....
but we have an amazing capacity to mess up what G-d wants for us!

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

Animals lived with people, in harmony.

People, in this best of all worlds, weren't interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.

In this future, people had no wanderlust, because they could, spiritually, communicate with everyone else in the world. There was no need to go elsewhere. They were so engrossed with where they were and the people around them that they didn't have to go on vacation. Vacation from what? They were completely fulfilled and happy.

Death, in this world, was a time when the individual had experienced everything that he or she needed to experience. To die meant to lie down and let go; then the spirit would rise up, and the community would gather around. There would be a great rejoicing, because they all had insight into the heavenly realm, and the spirit would join with the angels that came down to meet it. They could see the spirit leave and knew that it was time for the spirit to move on; it had outgrown the need for growth in this world. Individuals who died had achieved all they were capable of in this world in terms of love, appreciation, understanding, and working in harmony with others.
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AFM · Aug 4, 2019

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Because I actually believe that the earth will be utopian by 2185 but we humans have the power of choice and we could mess it up if we don't become informed and make better decisions.

This is what G-d wants for us.....
but we have an amazing capacity to mess up what G-d wants for us!

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04
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That’s bizarre. How does a utopian world with 10,000,000,000 people in it work ??

tecoyah · Aug 6, 2019

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That’s bizarre. How does a utopian world with 10,000,000,000 people in it work ??
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It doesn't....he probably saw it on a youtube video about near death experiences.

bringiton · Aug 6, 2019

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Desalination would simply move water temporarily from one place to another and make no difference whatsoever in the grand scheme.
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Wrong. Desalination can replace groundwater draw-downs, reducing saltwater intrusion into freshwater aquifers. It can also support reforestation of deserts.

bringiton · Aug 6, 2019

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That’s bizarre. How does a utopian world with 10,000,000,000 people in it work ??
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If people have their equal individual rights to life, liberty, and property in the fruits of their labor secured and reconciled by government, it works just fine. The earth can easily support 10 or even 100 times the current population. It's just a question of institutions that reward production rather than appropriation.

DennisTate · Aug 6, 2019

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Wrong. Desalination can replace groundwater draw-downs, reducing saltwater intrusion into freshwater aquifers. It can also support reforestation of deserts.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PHENOMENAL INTELLECTUAL HONESTLY and obvious state of being well informed on this!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!

DennisTate · Aug 6, 2019

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It doesn't....he probably saw it on a youtube video about near death experiences.
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Close... it was in the book My Descent Into Death by former Skeptic Howard Storm.. the summary of his book is here:

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04

Because of my fear of a nuclear holocaust I asked if there was going to be a nuclear war in the world, and they said no. That astonished me, and I gave them this extensive explanation of how I had lived under the threat of nuclear war. That was one of the reasons I was who I was. I figured, when I was in this life, that it was all sort of hopeless; the world was going to blow up anyway, and nothing made much sense. In that context I felt I could do what I wanted, since nothing mattered.

They said, "No, there isn't going to be any nuclear war."

I asked if they were absolutely sure there wasn't going to be nuclear war. They reassured me again, and I asked them how they could be so sure.

Their response was: "God loves the world." They told me that at the most, one or two nuclear weapons might go off accidentally, if they weren't destroyed, but there wouldn't be a nuclear war.

I then asked them how come there had been so many wars. They said that they allowed those few to happen, out of all the wars that humanity tried to start. Out of all the wars that humans tried to create, they allowed a few, to bring people to their senses and to stop them.

Science, technology, and other benefits, they told me, had been gifts bestowed on humanity by them - through inspiration. People had literally been led to those discoveries, many of which had later been perverted by humanity to use for its own destruction.

We could do too much damage to the planet. And by the planet, they meant all of God's creation. Not just the people, but the animals, the trees, the birds, the insects, everything.

They explained to me that their concern was for all the people of the world. They weren't interested in one group getting ahead of other groups. They want every person to consider every other person greater than their own flesh. They want everyone to love everyone else, completely; more, even, than they love themselves. If someone, someplace else in the world hurts, than we should hurt we should feel their pain. And we should help them. Our planet has evolved to the point, for the first time in our history, that we have the power to do that. We are globally linked. And we could become one people.
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What Howard Storm was shown though fits perfectly with very similar statements in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, the minor prophets and the Christian Bible that I've been reading since the '70's.......

Other near death experiencers were shown similar things to what Howard Storm was shown about the future..... but they were also shown that we had to learn to make better choices......... much better choices than we had been making in the past...... The future is the sum total of our choices..... our thoughts..... our ideas....... our words.....

DennisTate · Apr 12, 2020

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That’s bizarre. How does a utopian world with 10,000,000,000 people in it work ??
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I am really into spirituality and basically it only works when the Holy Spirit / the Ruach ha Kodesh is poured out on all flesh.

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