Here is 25 reasons to support the one true American Party. Republicans.

You only need one. Kavanaugh is you me and everyone else in 10 years.

 

OMG no lol I give up

 

On trying to give a single example of how Dems want sealed borders? Wise choice.

 

No I never mentioned anything about ways to close borders or the like, it was the statement about closing the borders. That is why I used an analogy, it was the idea not the topic I was challenging

 

Thank you for your recommendation, but I won't be voting Republican on November 6th. I am a registered Independent who just happens to like the Democrats better this time around.

 

Here’s one for not: They support altruism.

Ayn Rand: What is the moral code of altruism? The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to exist for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value.—http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/altruism.html

 

As a foreigner I must say, this is a list containing a lot of reasons why someone not should vote Republicans in the USA ... as well containing a lot of bull**** claims too.

But I am a foreigner and so I can sit back and give a crap on it how you make self destruction in the USA.

 

Except we could get hurt in the fallout

 

If the GOP was the party of deficit hawks and fiscal conservatism, I would have suppprted them. As of now, they are not...

 

Your post avoids so many of the major issues and when it does address some of the major issues you get it wrong.
Your first 4 points are on illegals ? What is the point other than to belabor that issue ?

You talk about "freedom of speech" - Red Establishment hates freedom of speech/freedom of the press and loves censorship. Not that Blue is not bad on this issue as well but Red is also horrible.

Then you talk about "violence". Red Establishment loves war.

You talk about the Clinton's. Does Roy Moore represent all Republicans ? Fallacious nonsense.

Kavanaugh may not have raped anyone but that does not make him qualified to be an SC Justice. Kavanaugh hates the principles on which this nation was founded - (as does the Republican Establishment) - that is why he should not be an SC Justice.

"Dems control the media" - I hate to burst your bubble but the Establishment controls the Media and the Establishment is both Red and Blue.

"Conservative Christians full of love". The Religious right is full of hate - and hate for the teachings of Jesus.



OK ... so this pretty much sums up your post.

What you fail to mention is that the Red Establishment hates individual liberty - respect for which is the main principle on which this nation was founded. They hate the rule of law and principles of justice. They love increasing Gov't power/ police power at the expense of individual liberty towards a quazi totalitarian police state.

Red Establishment loves big Gov't, big gov't spending and big debt and deficits. The Establishment hates fair and free markets - they love tax law, regulation and practices that keep the little guy from competing towards a state of indentured servitude. The love the Oligopolies - anti competitive practices, price fixing and so on.

Red Establishment loves political corruption and hates gov't transparency. Scum - through and through.

A vote for either Red or Blue establishment wonks is a vote for continued sodomy.

 

And that's the reason for what shelters should be build before

 

I was thinking more about ecconomicaly, wouldn't want a shelter, why would you want to survive anything you need a shelter for, to go mad?

 

And I mena also a sort of economic shelter building up to make yourself more independent about what is going on the USA to be infected with it

 

Oh I have that, I was born and raised on a small mixed farm, 99% self sustaining, not hard to make that 100%. I have a small but big enough and remote enough acreage .

 

Lines are getting blurred for sure, in the 60s thru 80s the dems (of which I was one and mostly still vote democratic) Wanted protection from cheaper foreign imports to save jobs, wanted a freer exchange of ideas, and wanted higher wages and a boost out of poverty. Republicans wanted a balanced budget and less social spending and an ex president warned us about the military industrial complex.

Republicans are now in bed with the defense contractors, pass budgets that don't even come close to balanced. (as Clinton's did) A republican president now spends like a drunken sailor, openly courts blacks by keeping out foreign labor, while the democrats oppose this and depress wages with illegal immigration. Democrats now shut down speech by infering anything that contradicts thier vision of utopia is hate speech. And criticize the president's efforts to promote fair trade while it costs rich multinationals who the dems rail against billions.

 

Propagandists and progressive indoctrinees use the 7 D's in their 'debates'.

Deflect
Distort
Discredit
Distract
Demean
Disrupt
Divide

Examples of these tactics are constantly provided by progressives , in their transparent attempts at 'reason'..

 

Probably the best example ever of who really wants open borders.
Hint: It's not the Dems.
In June 2013, the immigration bill passed the Senate with a strong majority—68–32, with 14 Republicans joining all Democrats. The United States House of Representatives under Speaker John Boehner did not act on the bill, however, and it expired at the end of the 113th Congress.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(immigration)
This conversation is over.

 

Why do you feel the need to fish for personal, ad hom ammunition? Can't answer the OP with reason, so you want to deflect with ad hom and poison the well?

 

That is my point. You did prove my OP. Democrats have no answers or solutions to the problem besides E-Verify which is broken and they do everything they can to support illegals which means they are fine with open borders. If they had a problem with it they would try harder to do something about it and crank down on sactuary cities and people who protect illegals.

Remember when Obama sued the AZ state government for supporting the border patrol in stop illegals? Now Obama had the most deportations of any president but they claim they were mostly criminals. (All illegals are criminals) So What I take from this is he supports illegals aka dreamers and has no problem with them being here but still has to do his job at the same time. He can't make it look like he supported illegals but we all know he did.

So the Democratic party is for open borders and illegals voting. Democrats are the party of illegal Mexicans aka California and New York.

The Republican party is for closed borders, illegals not being here and America for the American people.
So Republicans are the American party of the American people. Thus why everyone should vote Republican.

 

I never hid my identity. I posted in the new member forum/old member welcome back thread. The forum was hacked awhile back and multiple users including myself had our accounts messed up. I ended up having problems and could not continue using my account but I checked the forums every day as a non member. I finally decided to start a new account and for my own reasons changed my name. My original user name was Matthewthf and I had almost 2,000 posts but I am not here for any of that stuff. I am here to debate politics.

They all think I am new and what does that have to do with my OP? The fact is I posted facts and they can't dispute any of them. I was not 100% sure of Trump the last time I was here even though I voted for him but with a record low unemployment level and an amazing economy I am 100% for Trump now. I think he is doing an amazing job and the Democrats are doing the worst job I have ever seen them do.

 

Some Republican leaders are the problem. That is why the Republican party was never very strong when McCain and Romney ran for president. We were feeling divided. I know I could not bring myself to vote for Mitt Romney. I could not stand the guy even though I disliked Obama. Trump has united the party and given us all hope where there was none before for myself. Now with Trump leading we can actually get closed borders or at least try.

 

What claims are lies? The Democrats stand for everything I said or act like they do, the left is calling us names, calling for violence etc, Hillary and Bill Clinton were evil and supported by the Democrats, they do support open borders so everything I said was true unless you can prove otherwise.

 

Great description of the TRUMP PLAYBOOK.

Thanks.

 

Are you saying we do not have record low unemployment right now and if you say we do then are you saying it is not because of Trump?

Is that really what you are trying to claim? Have fun trying to proof Trump has done nothing for this economy. The last left winger to argue this with me tried to say it started under Obama but it never started until the election and could have easily fell apart but Trump has kept the economy in an amazing place right now and continues to do so. Every month it just gets better and better.

 

Yes that is so true. Woman seem to be doing false accusations more and more against men to the point where you have to be very careful what you say on the job or who you talk to. The Democrats seem to be supporting this type of behavior and it's stupid.

That is a good reason to support the Republicans.