Here is a real gun control proposal that doesn't ban any guns (that aren't already)

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  1. Bob Newhart

    Bob Newhart Well-Known Member

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    Nope. That law hasn't changed.
     
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    The rules have.
     
  3. Bob Newhart

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    So, you don't care about following the Constitution. Your law suggestion is nothing more than gun-grabbin'.
     
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    That is ridiculous.

    No, I'm suggesting it doesn't interfere with gun ownership like other gun laws.
     
  5. Bob Newhart

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    Nope
     
  6. Cybred

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    Why?
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And laws are meant to stop law breakers. People who obey the law use it as a guide to their behavior. That's obvious to anyone but you and your sort and it's obvious to you too, you just like to pretend that the 2nd Amendment allows you nukes and that any law that CAN be broken shouldn't exist

    I'm tired of arguing with anarchists. People's common sense should reject it and if it doesn't then that means they don't have any, not that common sense doesn't exist.

    Spanish is a beautiful language and I wish I understood it but I don't. I guess that's a heavy handed jibe that I'm not a "real" Murican since I don't use my AR to go hunting doves and squirrels with you and shitpants Ted after the God, Guns and Guts concert.
     
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  8. Bob Newhart

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    Yes, your law suggestion is definitely ridiculous.
    Writing a bunch of laws which make the ownership of a firearm dangerous and more expensive does definitely interfere with gun ownership.
     
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    Yep, HOW?
     
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    Because they have the laws you like.
     
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    Yep, HOW?
     
  12. Cybred

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    Nope, enact those laws here.
     
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    So it doesn't.
     
  14. fmw

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    I certainly wouldn't suggest that you should force yourself to argue with anarchists. Stay away from Antifa. They are the major organized group of anarchists.

    You know absolutely nothing about me and yet you want to heap insults on me from your ignorance of who and what I am. Perhaps anarchists might be a better target for you.
     
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    As soon as people start criticizing what I didn't say, then I have had enough. Take care.
     
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    Not registering would make you an automatic walking felon now if a LEO stopped you and you didn't have your registration on your DL you're taken straight to jail all firearms taken and under probation. No trial because risking it would make your penalty 5-10 in prison.
     
  17. Joe knows

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    Yeah… I see a line of blue and red bandannas lining up for this. This won’t effect those who commit crimes. It will make it easier for the government to track law abiding people but do nothing for crime.

    yup, because the law abiding are the ones we have to worry about


    Because the law abiding is sooooo scary


    I don’t see this as necessarily bad. We could make it a law now without all the registration Bull you’re screaming.


    again… will criminals actually register their gun they use to defend their drugs, wave around in front of their homies to look cool. There is no way this will help the innocent

    That liability will definitely make them report stolen firearms won’t it. Or will it scare them out of it? This is just another way to stick it to the law abiding

    Because making people pay for others mistakes makes so much sense right. All minors that kill use stolen guns, or illegally obtained ones anyway. This is a big problem in the black community. Many are killed by kids in gangs with guns they should not have simply due to age restrictions. So I see where this point came from but you still have to ask yourself how will it effect crime? Guns are already out there by masses. Criminals won’t register their already illegally or legally obtained guns. They just won’t. So what are you going to do about those? Just punish the law abiding is your answer?
     
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    If this ever really happened I would hope all gun owners would not comply in protest. But I doubt they will. There is always a yes man
     
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    I'm not the one making snarky jibes about Spanish being my native language. I don't think I've ever met a real "AntiFa" in my life and I think they're another conservative myth in actual fact. I truly wish gun advocates were a liberal one but I've seen FAR too many real ones of them
     
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    I sure would not. The Govt has no right to have a list of my private property
     
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    Good lord.
     
  22. Joe knows

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    The fact you said this shows you don’t understand the history of the 2nd amendment. The right to bear arms was defined as anything the hand can naturally grasp by people as far back as Aristotle. We didn’t invent this right. The founders we’re highly educated and knew this. When they thought of the right to bear arms they believed it to be the sword and shield of a soldier, not a warship, or a cannon, or a nuke.
     
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    How about the same registration and requirements for newspaper publishers, editors, reporters, news casters, priests, pastors, parishioners, pamphleteers, orators, home owners, etc?
     
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    Like laws against bank robbery, speed limits and murder, right? They're just insults to people who will never do them anyway and people who are going to rob banks or kill people will just do so anyway.

    Let's reverse this question. If you're NOT intending to use your gun illegally why are you so opposed to registering it. Do you have a problem with registering your car and keeping a license plate on it?
     
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    If they have guns then ok.
     
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