Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life, philosophical/religious facts,

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  1. palao

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    Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

    can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

    if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

    that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
    there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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    for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

    So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
    Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

    ( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

    if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

    same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
    I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

    Why should you waste your time?
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    all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
    im not talking these all things from my own.
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    in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

    cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

    tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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    if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

    5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

    and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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    If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

    Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

    if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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    Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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    every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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    if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
    read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
     
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    You say don’t live like animals, but humans are animals. Like flesh is flesh, the life mankind was left with after Adam and Eve lost the life they had in the Presence of God. And calming chants may seem a cool replacement for the lack of spiritual, but it’s no different than a mother’s lullaby, a sense of security and or safety in one’s place in the earth, of which can be a false sense of security. Animals can experience calming (a sense of peace or peacefulness) also.

    No “spiritual” required there. All flesh can experience fear, or anger, so can they experience peacefulness.

    Men are souls in the flesh because they have been given by the Almighty His place in the earth to have domain over all the living creatures in the earth that the Almighty gave life to. (this is also the reason why men don’t want the Presence of God in the world, they think that God should remain in Heaven and leave the earth to them, hence a betrayal to what was given them, and who gave it them)

    Hence the purpose of man is to accommodate the Presence of the Almighty (His Holy Spirit) in the earth in the fulfillment of the Almighty’s Word to man. But this can’t be done via man’s own judgement of what is good. It is done by man’s agreement to God’s Judgement of what is good for His creation, no exceptions. And since man goes buy his own judgement of what is good, he is now separated from his Maker’s Presence because man’s judgement is not the fulfillment of God’s will.
     
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    I'd be more inclined to consider such positions if it wasn't for the fact that God's strictures and the criteria for "heavenly reward" have all been invented by men of varying degrees of intellect but all profoundly ignorant of the natural forces around them.

    Our sapience demands we answer the unanswerable so we "imagine" the answers and in doing so construct "temples" of dogma that must be strictly adhered in order to achieve the prize of eternal life lest eternal suffering be the result. Such spiritual terror tactics were not god's, they were man's.

    OTOH, I believe the purpose of our species is acquire knowledge and understanding of our universe and ourselves, nothing more, nothing less. I believe the purpose of the individual is to learn, love, laugh and live to the fullest extent they can while contributing what they can (consciously or not) to the overall purpose.

    We are after all certified organic organisms living in a singular and fragile biosphere hurtling thru space revolving around a star at 70,000 mph which is revolving around the galactic center of one of billions and billions of galaxies in the universe at 450,000 mph.
     
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    Palao, you might want to discover how to post a link, like https://www.asitis.com/ (Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V)

    Your comments were good, but go deeper. Go beyond experience and being. Ultimately, there is no such thing as "experiencing Reality". Only Reality is. There is nothing else. There is a state beyond forgetting and remembering. What changes is not real; what is real does not change. Be nothing. Know nothing. Have nothing. Therein you will find your Reality. Your own Reality is that of the Absolute. The Absolute doesn’t know itself at all. The Eternal State with without form and without beingness. As long as you believe you are an entity, spiritual salvation and all this talk is useless.

    Your original, true state of being is present now. You are Parabrahman. The knowledge in you that knows change is, itself, changeless. Even the experience that you are, is not your true nature.

     
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    its a terror to those who are contrary to the belief. that in and of itself is the way things are through all living things. if a rabbit walks contrary to the belief that danger lurks behind a bush, he shall experience other than what he believed. doesn't mean he has to see it, for it to be true. that is a terror that some thing is true that one believes one need not fear nor respect. its childish to expect things to be otherwise, as the saying goes, women and children can afford to be careless, but men can not.

    if there's no judgment of God to come then there's nothing to fear, other than death itself. but if there is Judgement to come of the Creator and Judge what can be done of it, seeing death is the judgement already?

    judgement of that which is contrary to God surely has it coming, or has it received it already? and that which is faithful has received a reprieve though the flesh being the place that was used to walk contrary to God shall experience death but the soul shall not. so just because the earth is what it is doesn't mean there is no God.
     
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    No its terror. A rabbit is not sapient but learns very quickly what predators are, their terror is instinctual and survival based since at any moment they could be leapt upon and eaten.

    The terror of eternal damnation is completely abstract, it is a threat beyond death, just like salvation is a treat beyond death for those that require comfort from the terrible price all sapients must pay - foreknowledge that our death is inevitable. Using that threat to get people to "tow the dogmatic line" and "change their ways" is pretty much what terrorists do. Why they even kill and/or oppress those that don't believe like they do. Imagine that.
     
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    "Toe" the line.
     
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    noted, thanks.
     
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    OTOH, how about the idea that, with the "Silk Road" and the trade at the time, some of the features of the story of Krishna were included in the story of Jesus in order to do as they so often did in those days, which was to attempt to attract and draw in devotees from other religions to the new religion that was beginning to form? A little research will show this to be a common strategy with many religions throughout many years and generations.
     
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    Yes......
    that is also a possibility......

    But the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research, the Dr. Ian Stevenson research, the Dr. Chet Snow research...... as well as the work of many other professionals.... has me taking the reincarnation cycle very seriously.
     
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    and why shall i follow any *nonsense* like you ? who are you ? who are you `1st of all ? are you another authority ? alright give me another verifaible and tangible explanation so that i can start following you now.

    and keep`1 thing in your ( dull ) brain that you cant **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) your authority on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all.
     
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    and you can believe so many things for now and reject those very things at the next momment. so what is the value of your nonsense ? are you another authority ? than give me another solid explanation. so that we can see who is standing where.
     
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    and the first step to know it that weather you can really go beyond your experience or you are factually under the grip of natures law of forgetfulness is to recall everything whcih you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute.

    do it quickly so that we can see who is standing where.
     
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    `1st of all tell us before calling us ( The Hare Krishnas ) as terrorists that where is faith or belief in this practical explanation ? kindly point it out now. and the first step to know it that weather it is an bogus faith or belief OR you are factually under the grip of natures law of forgetfulness is to recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute. go ahead and do it now.
     
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    and kindly tell me also that what solid, verifiable and tangbile explanation any religion has given to you ? kindly explain only christian and islamic explanation.
     
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    and have you read this practical explanation ?
     
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    We are born, we live, and we die. The existence we had on earth.
    What happens before and after. 7B people can have 7B different opinions.
     
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    so you keep your nonsense opinion to yourself. you keep it to yourself with your fellow blind sheeps.
     
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    I do believe that something important is being worked out in our time period
    regarding the new information about the lost years of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in which
    he may have travelled to India, Nepal and Tibet.


    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ng-in-india-before-teaching-in-judaea.315020/



    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html
     
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    Excuse me but practically speaking it is a most prominent act of faith for those believing that depending on their own adherence to dogma they shall receive either reward/punishment after death. That is pure faith.

    As for forgetfulness, there is not "natures law". It is a common human trait, more prominent in some than others and has absolutely no relevance to the question of what is our purpose.
     
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    so you keep your nonsense opinion to yourself. you keep it to yourself with your fellow blind sheeps.
     
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    the value of my "nonsense" is as a foundation of my personal philosophy. I am most definitely THE authority of my own "spirituality" and conception of reality.

    As for accepting then rejecting the very next moment, I tend to be far more pragmatic, only accepting or rejecting some concept or perspective based on the merits of the argument and the facts submitted. It tends to eliminate unquestioning dependence on dogma in the evaluation process.

    For instance, if I don't believe Krishna ever existed, then the dogma surrounding belief in that divine aspect is rejected out of hand. that does not mean that the human wisdom and philosophies that such dogma may contain are to be rejected, merely that one does not accept the metaphorical context used. That applies to every religion.
     
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    and now simply come to point and recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute. so that we can weather you are under the grip or you are foolishly speaking so many nonsense.

    and there is relevance cuz sleeping, eating, sex and fear these primary things are even cats and dogs are doing without your so called education. and if you as human being act like cats and dogs than where you stand ? you are also cats and dogs. that is all.
     

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