HEre is the smoking gun. Russia is on Trump's side, and is colluding.

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    The "Russian collusion" story is about dead. Already, we're not hearing much about it. The dems will just let it silently disappear since there clearly isn't any.
     
  2. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What Me Worry? alfred_e_neuman-cell.JPG

    A copy of the above upload is on file at the Federal's Patriot Act inspired
    computer storage facility in Utah.
    Only for meta data analysis. Nothing personal. Trust Obama. Trust the Federals.
    Well they may take a peek if someone looks interesting, randomly selected or . . .
     
  3. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1984 Version
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength.

    21st Century Version
    War is Security.
    Freedom is Surveillance
    Common Truth is Strength


    Could use some help on the last line or any line one may suggest.

    Fake News is Strength.
    LSM is Strength.
    Money is Strength

    Suggestions.
     
  4. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Folks like to cling to past glory and "necessary illusions". The raging masses are not as much stupid as they are ignorant methinks. There is a reason why through 12 years of school we no longer teach the basics of Philosophy (logic, logical fallacy, what constitutes a valid argument .. and so on).

    They also do not teach the main principle on which this country was founded "Individual rights and freedoms above the legitimate authority of Gov't"

    The frog in water slowly brought to a boil analogy is a good one .. the above aids this process.

    It's shocking how many are so ignorant of the basics ... then tend to commit the fault of believing only in freedoms they agree with ... which of course is not belief in freedom at all.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What most do not understand is that their analysis assumes Gov't is generally good and will be that way forever.

    The truth is that in general we do not have much to fear from our current Gov't. As such, while they are indeed abusing their power .. it is not crazy abuse (although in some ways it is getting there).

    The problem is the "forever" part. History tells us that Gov'ts "always" go bad. The natural tendency of Gov't is to try to increase it's power. Power corrupts and more power corrupts more.

    The next McCarthy (or a whole lot worse) will go after thoughts. This witch hunt be able to search through anyone's past ... something they said 30 years ago might convict them.

    This is a 100% certainty.

    The founders recognized this... which is why they tried to limit Gov't power. The reason they put individual rights and freedoms "Above" the limited authority of Gov't was not to defend us against Bin laden or Russia.

    It was to protect us from Gov't going bad.
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Au Contraire
    Government is bad.
    Bad by definition. Intrinsically bad.
    Just better than no government.

    The trick is to make it as least bad as possible.
    One of my favorite government was the Dutch Confederation circa 1750.
    The Articles of Confederation of America were patterned after the Dutch system.
    Under that system only the Dike Master could force you out of your home to help defend a failing dike. Otherwise, your home was your castle.
     
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  7. osbornterry

    osbornterry Well-Known Member

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    Hurricane Harvey has still knocked PRESIDENT TRUMP out as the daily lead-in on cable news. How long can this go on?Trump Haters and Baiters must be going through withdrawals.

    There are Trump Derangement Syndrome alternatives.

    The History Channel is full of factual shows about ancient aliens, haunted mansions and looking for Hitler. Like the mass hysteria (I mean media), these shows also create facts out of thin air and--best of all--not one of them says their theories are "nothing burgers"--something staffers on CNN should pay attention to.

    I have an idea.

    Let's start a write-in campaign and get the History Channel to replay the entire eight months of the Russian Collusion Illusion.

    Who wants to be the first to sign on?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not the gun that's been smoking, that much is obvious if you believe this nonsense...
     
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    LOL. The only thing that came apart at the seams are the minds who see smoke coming off the end of the cannabis joint they are smoking. And what is worse are those who do not smoke cannabis but still see smoke coming from the gun the do not even own. An invisible gun that like the Russian ruse only exists in desperate minds who cannot believe still Hillary got beat by Tiny Hands Trump when all of the pundits and experts, MSM and the polls said Hillary was gonna clean his plow. That it was impossible for him to win the electoral colleges. Obviously this created such a mental meltdown that these people started seeing Russians behind every tree and now it is an invisible smoking gun, and only the trump haters can see the smoke from that invisible gun. I am worried about these people for I would imagine many of them have small children, well, I worry for the children. Mental illness and parenting can be a very risky thing, for the kids are not old enough yet to take care of their parents.

    What caliber is that smoking revolver? 13 gauge or 2 gauge? Fully auto, that holds 43 rounds in the cylinder?
     
  10. osbornterry

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    This is the umpteenth smoking gun to misfire in the Russian Collusion Illusion.

    It is hard to believe that in the United States of America, there are delusional people who still refuse to accept the election results which confirmed Donald Trump as PRESIDENT

    Donald Trump made fools of HIllary, her friends in the mass hysteria (I mean media) and the sore losers on this website last November. His win may be a BITTER PILL for all of you to swallow, but that's just tough.

    HE WON.

    You're wasting your time on this website thinking you can 1) hold a do over on the election 2) discredit Trump's win 3) impeach him..

    Those are the rants of crackpots.
     
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  11. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of Crack? Mueller enlisted the entirety of the crack IRS team of forensic money crime investigators on the job FULL TIME.
     
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    Living in the Twilight zone is weird enough for me.
     
  13. osbornterry

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    The Russian Collusion Illusion is a long line of dead ends for Trump haters and baiters.

    Before the election, it was that dossier created out of thin air by GPS fusion and then it was the Access Hollywood tapes.

    He still won and made fools of HIllary and her friends in the mass hysteria (I mean media).

    After the election, it was the Russian hacking of the Demo emails; then it was the electoral college should be done away with; then it was the effort to keep the electoral college from confirming Trump as the winner.

    All of those efforts fell flat so the NYT printed that bogus story that the Russians and the Trump team colluded to win the election. That had legs, but they were wobbly. No proof has ever confirmed it and James Comey told Congress the NYT story was wrong.

    Trying to blame Trump for the chaos in that little town the no one ever heard of--Charlottesville--is the latest try and it has collapsed also.

    What keeps Trump in the game is his success with the economy and foreign affairs.

    The GDP is a at 3.0 percent. That is a 49 percent increase over the Obama GDP of 2.1 percent.The stock market is at an all-time high. Unemployment is way down. The confidence of the business community is up.

    US energy has been unleashed to make America energy independent and even an energy exporter.

    One story that got no coverage was the first delivery of natural gas to Lithuania. Trump negotiated with the East Europeans to buy stable supplies from the US over the Russians who used their deliveries to coerce them. If that grows, it will be a game changer in world politics . Russia will collapse without its oil revenues.

    50 Arab heads of state gathered recently to hear Trump speak about terror. NATO listened when he told them to increase their defense spending. He is not backing down from the North Koreans. ISIS has been kicked out of Mosul and Raaqa and chased into their last holes in Syria.

    Trump is making the US the rock star of the world again.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We've been hearing this for a year now. If you have proof then produce it or try and wake up.
     
  15. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WE made a deal, allow an adult, to investigate, and we don't have to get all up in all youalls business. We let rule of law proceed.

    The findings are far reaching, and likely very seedy. More a novel than charges. A view in to what Donald did to make his BILLIONS, that makes him unfit to leave alone with decent humans. Let alone decide their fate.

    He is unhinged, and compulsive, delusional and in denial. That could get folks killed.
     
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    We have an email chain that proves, beyond any doubt at all, that at least three people in Trump's inner circle deliberately attempted to conspire with the Russian government. Their best excuse is that they failed to do so. Yet Trump supporters bury their head in the sand and then turn around and point to mentions of pizza in an email chain as proof of a satanic cabal of pedophiles. I'm at a loss for words.
     
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    Oh brother. You're treating the website like a bathroom wall.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, ya didn't have to grab that appendage thru the wall.
     
  19. Troianii

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    Uh, do you know what a smoking gun is? It's something which proves a crime, w/o being caught in the act. This doesn't prove jackshit. This isn't a smoking gun. This is just collusion delusion.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reminds me of Conjunction Junction!
     
  21. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The USUAL response to censure, is tit for tat. The Russians, PUTIN, ORIGINALLY, made NO response to OBAMA's penalties. OBVIOUSLY, assured that once Trump gained power, those penalties would all be lifted.

    Now, Congress moves to penalize them, and the Russians, slap us back, HARD, WHILSTTTTTTTTT telling Trump PUBLICALLY, that the ESTABLISHMENT, is aiming to oust him.

    There is no more smoking gun, unless it is a shotgun, in nam, stuffed with a Thai Stick.

    Putin and Trump are Siamese twins, sympatico, push me pull me. They are strivers, to the exclusion of their constituents, of PERSONAL fame and power.

    If Trump is doing the nasty, so much less scrutiny can Putin receive, while doing the nasty. That is the hook.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whys you quote my post if you're not going to respond to it? There is no smoking gun - anyone who thinks otherwise merely proves that they don't know what a smoking gun is.


     
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