Here's the collusion

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  1. HumbledPi

    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    Refer to comment #13
     
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    Complete nonsense.

    Nothing burger.
     
  3. Josephwalker

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    Operative words here. "Robert Mueller believes" :roflol:



     
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    Correction. Robert Mueller is a member in good standing of the oligarchy that is desirous of Trump's removal from office.
     
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    Yes, elaborate for me on that? Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Hilary's actions were any kind of treason although they verged on cash for influence but why are her dealings with the Russians treated so differently from everyone else's?
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I agree that Stewart et al shouldn't be compared with Trump et al - Stewart committed an ACTUAL crime.

    No.
     
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    Just a reminder. Mueller's record is blundered hells angels case and reversed enron veridicts and prosecutorial misconduct.
     
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    Gosh, I thought I was about to read the evidence that linked trump and putin, and showed a conspiracy between those two, in regards beating hillary clinton. That they were working together, a conspiracy, to win the election.

    What I got was that this criminal manafort, according to some sources, was talking to a russian about ukraine, and manafort had past involvement with ukraine, the way others who were trying to make money, did.

    What is missing is relevant. This is a long way from a conspiracy between putin and trump, and if that does not exist, mueller will never be able to present the evidence of this.
     
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    Let's not forget to include the innocent men Mueller convicted during the Whitey Burger fiasco, and definitely not forget the overturned convictions of Sen Ted Stevens of Alaska, and the Enron executives tried by members of Mueller's team, and last, but not least, the total pass so many demonrats have gotten on similar activities.
     
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    but.. but.. but .. Mueller is a decorated Marine too! Funny when that garners respect from the Left.
    The Left has to be told that many republicans are members of the same Global Elite has the demonrats.... and Fox News is NOT some kind of 'far right wing" organization. .. not even close. There is a long list of "never Trumpers" in that corporation.
     
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    But....if anyone gets caught lying to the feds, whether it is Flynn, or Manafort, this automatically is evidence that putin and trump conspired, together, to win the election. No need to look farther.

    Any court in this land would deliver a verdict of guilty of such a conspiracy, right? For this is all the evidence that democrats would need, right?
     
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    The comment was in regard to the crimes of Martha Stewart. Comment #13 was in no way a reference to HRC.

    If you still insist on pushing forth with this conspiracy theory about Uranium One, please read the attached article.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/
     
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    So is being a lawyer in the US but they don't throw you in jail for it I don't think.

    Ah yeah forgot you're not from the US.
     
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    Did you?
     
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    Funny how that's 90% of his involvement.

    "Well we couldn't find a crime, but you said you were at IHOP last Thursday. Actually it was last Friday. We're sending you to jail."
     
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    Umm..... really? None of this is against the law... The "illegality" is when Manafort didn't "remember it" precisely enough or mention it in previous interviews. As the legal team (and isn't this a perfect inflection point that might draw a mistrial...) points out, government still hasn't shown intent here. And isn't that the gold standard that got Hillary off?
     
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    You obviously cant comprehend your own source. It directly contradicts your assertion and confirms mine.
     
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    And even this is bound to be only one small part of the whole thing. So much of MAGA's campaign, and even his damned family, has been intimiately, financially involved with the Russians. The admission by one of his idiot sons that they got a bunch of money from the Russians for real estate is just... It shows how intimately connected they really have been.

    MAGA himself probably doesn't even think he has done anything wrong. He's afraid of what will happen if others find out enough of the truth, but in his mind it wasn't wrong or unpatriotic, because he's a twisted, narcissistic f**k.
     
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    Manafort shares polling data with a Russian.

    Did Russia also believed the polling that Hillary would win in a landslide ?
     
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    Your source doesn't deny the assertion. It simply states there is no evidence to show that the payments influenced the decision.
     
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    I did and all it says is Clinton received millions and didn't object to the sale? Don't get me wrong, I don't think Hilary should be held culpable but why is there a different standard for her? General Flynn was a true American hero who fought in 2 wars and earned 4 medals yet he is prosecuted and nearly bankrupted for not recalling a meeting years ago? Surely Hilary's Russian links are stronger than Trump's?
     
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    Investigations completed. No evidence of wrongdoing. That's the end of my response to your discussion on this topic.
     
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    But so was Clinton? How can you be an international businessman these days without dealing with Russia (as the Clinton's could testify?).
     
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    Details. How did the Clintons (note: no apostrophe) deal with Russia? What came out of it?
     

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