High school football coach scores big win at Supreme Court over post-game prayer

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  1. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Turning the government into a theocracy is a problem.
     
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    Well he/she better get a move on then.
     
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    Here in America, the Free People have the right to speak publically. I realize that's a real problem for the Left wing Authoritarians, but, that's their problem. They might want to move to a dictatorship. Some people aren't mature enough for freedom and that's fine.
     
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    Oh we are are all quite tired of Edu-Thugs applying endless, relentless pressure on K-12 public school kids to adopt and parrot Edu-Thug established views on issues race, sex, LGBTQ issues and other left wing propaganda but a football coach offering optional prayers on the field? Not a problem.
     
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    I've heard its a post-death conversation.
     
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    Yes, I love the first amendment and that religious speech is as protected as any other form of speech and that the free exercise clause actually exists.
     
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    How do you know what a real Christian is?
     
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    Not an option.
     
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    Republican heads gonna explode...
     
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    I've never felt comfortable leading or participating in public prayer outside of church.

    When I was an assistant football coach I made a point before the season started asking the head coach not to ask me to lead a team prayer. I was willing to bow my head respectfully during public prayer (out of respect for those who were participating). but I did not want to lead one.

    I guess that's just me. Though in this state taking that position almost got me lynched (exaggeration).
     
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    As I elaborated previously, neither the US nor any developed Western Nation is a theocracy or even has theocratic tendencies. Public prayer isn't a sign of theocratic policy. Religious artifacts or activities in public is not theocratic in nature. Nor is any of the above a merger of State Government-religious organizations.
     
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    You're usually better than this. I literally copied and pasted your post. Run and hide if you must and it doesn't matter who you were talking about, how you called them arrogant for praying specifically about something, yet didn't notice the arrogance that you displayed by assuming what they pray about.

    "As a side note, I always find it fascinating to have the religious right pray and thank god for their win while their god is ignoring starving families and children with crazy diseases and cancers. Such absolute arrogance."

    I find it amusing that you assume what the guy was praying about. Arrogance knows no bounds I guess.
     
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    A. Public schools. They are state run institutions.

    B. Baby steps. That's how it always starts.
     
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    Jesus is probably up there going "OMG, what is it this time"
     
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    What is happening now was never intended. A single person in the senate refusing to even hear a twice elected presidents SCOTUS pick followed by that same person ramming through one at the final moment because they knew their party was about to be removed by the people.

    It is a perversion of what was intended but no one should expect anything more from the party over country side.
     
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    You are saying I said him — I said the religious right.
    I don’t understand what the disconnect is here.
     
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    I thought you loathed "slippery slope" arguments?
     
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    Gun Control was never intended, but you don't have a problem with those laws.
     
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    A. As I elaborated again before, no they are not. In fact, they're the furthest thing from state run institutions. Why do you think conservatives targeted the DEPT of Education for cuts? It's because the reality is that it costs more to keep the department running, then actual results. If education is delegated to the school boards(which they are) we don't have a need for a federal program.

    Especially one as passive as ours. Social Security is a state run institution! The only presence of the government in schools are the free/deferred school lunch programs.
     
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    Various forms of gun control existed in the colonies and during the American revolutionary war gun confiscation was absolutely a thing. Not to mention there was a duty to retreat and safe storage laws.

    https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/01-03-02-0016-0075

    Also do you believe it was easy for a woman or black person to get a weapon?

    I think it is interesting that not only have you displayed a complete lack of comprehension on the founders history revolving around gun issues, you have also indicated that you acknowledge what Republicans are doing currently is akin to what you feel Democrats are doing in relation to gun loss. Except one of them has a basis in history and one of them is a sheer manipulation of the system for the benefit of a political party.
     
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    Every employee in the school system is a government employee.
     
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    No, they're not. I don't know where you live, but the next time you see a bus it might say something like 'the School district of Philadelphia'. Or 'Chester County'.(using my home state as examples.) And these districts are far removed from the state/local governments. And as I elaborated, the school boards themselves do not actually have any teachers on it, so no conflict of interests.

    The school board is NOT political in spite of the vote, it has no actual political authority. The school district mainly references to the cities on the map that it actually serves. The only connection the city/state government has, is the zoning taxation issue. So to reiterate, again: There is no political connection between either our state or federal government with educators.

    We do not have indoctrination camps( per se, and at the very least not directly.) We just have underfunded teachers massively, and underfunded extracurricular activities that could actually help produce productive citizens from the student body.

    What people think of the school system, and what the school system actually is are total opposites. Again: Social Security is more government-ran than our school systems.
     
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    You knew someone would make this comparison:
     
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    Who are they employees of? A private company?
     
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    Some schools are privately owned, and some are publicly(city) owned, but the ownership aspect is again, for all literal purposes separated from education(as I said earlier, it's primarily tied to the zoning issue.). I can promise everyone, both liberal and conservative: There is no government-school component. There's a little assistance known as the school lunch assistance program, but that's literally it.

    The mayor isn't scheming with the teachers, nor the secretary of education or any of them.
     

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