Hillary a liar? When? Where? How? Inform us.

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  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    I have seen repeated reports that many voters question Hillary's honesty and think of her as a liar. I'm honestly confused by this. I have watched Hillary from afar for several decades and have been mostly impressed by her accomplishments. Try as I might, I can't recall her ever being caught in a lie to her constituents. Perhaps I'm wrong and someone out there can provide an example, but my concern is whether this widespread belief in her dishonesty might be a result of non-thinking voters listening to Trump's pompous propensity to call everyone he disagrees with or competes with some form of derogatory or disrespectful name, and simply accepting Trump's accusations as if they were fact, without regard to the truth.
     
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    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    How about when she ran for President in 2008, and claimed that she landed at an airport under sniper fire. Video of that event clearly shows that she came down the runway with no hurry. She was greeted by diplomats, and a young girl gave her flowers. There was no sniper fire. In other words she lied.

    Or more recently, when she claimed that when she claimed that she did not violate any laws with her private server while SOS. She also claimed that her use of a private server was no different then previous SOS's. The State Department IG report proved that she was lying.

    That's two examples. How many do you want?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube_share;-dY77j6uBHI]http://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI[/video]
     
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    Pax Aeon Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, Hillary Clinton has told some whoppers. However, it's hard to find a politician who hasn't. The last honest one I remember was Jimmy Carter, and his reward for honesty was to lose his bid for reelection.
     
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    I think that is one of the sadly, most interesting things about this very odd election cycle. Neither candidate has the moral high ground. Both have stretched the truth, both have some scandal in their backgrounds, both have allegations of corruption. When you remove the moral high ground as a reason to vote for one candidate or the other, then you have to look at other job qualifications and reasons to vote for one or the other. Many Trump voters have specifically said they are on the Trump train because they hate Hillary, and even some Republicans have said they were going to support Hillary because #neverTrump. It seems to me that is why more and more Americans are saying they are voting against a candidate than for a candidate. Of course, as the campaigns progress, that may change… but only if we get some actual discussion about the issues.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you’re guided by nothing but a lust for power, why bother with the truth?


    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435987/hillary-clinton-campaign-lies
     
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    "Try as I might ...."

    Well, that pretty much disqualifies any discernment of truth you might have about Donald Trump or his supporters.

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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has to be a bait thread. You have to feigning ignorance to give so many in here such opportunities to expose Hillary lies. I like it.
     
  11. Crawdadr

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    Well looks like you got your answer. Now that you have been given multiple examples how do you respond?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Carter was honest. He was also an ignoramous.

    He knew nothing of foreign relations or the economy.
     
  13. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :confusion:
    I think you responded to my post with a reply for another post. I never mentioned Carter in my post. Here's my post below...

     
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    Oops. sorry.
     
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    People that believe Hillary is pure as the driven snow only prove they are keeping themselves in witting ignorance.
     
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    It would be much easier to come up with a list that showed where she was not lying. It would be a really short list showing her telling the truth.

    If anyone was really interested in the verified lying of Clinton, just do a you tube search or internet search. Your eyes would get tired before you learned of them all.

    The only options that her supporters have, is to not look at them, for ignorance is bliss when it comes to a Clinton supporter. The other option is just to go into a absurd denial, and then be dishonest enough to maintain that position. Which seems quite easy for a Clinton supporter.

    And so, we can discern that the only reason Clinton is getting votes is because a group of people just want to see a woman president, now since we had our first half black one. After Clinton, this group will have to elect a gay or lesbian. Then, a transgender, and who knows what will come after that. Which means that such people are not serious people, and as superficial as a human being can ever be.

    The worst thing about Clinton is not the lying, nor the flip flopping to get votes, but the problem of sociopathy. The woman is clearly the worst sort of sociopath, and the most dangerous kind. She will take us to where only a sociopath would ever take us. And then she will lie about that.
     
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    Republicans tend to overuse "lie" when referring to Hilldog, as dems tend to overuse it when referring to Trump.
     
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    This is a bit too obvious to be a genius dig at the old lying bag, but I give you points for style. If you are being serious, then, you should reevaluate your news outlets.
     
  19. XploreR

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    Good response. Thank you for your efforts. Most of these seem to be slight exaggerations made during political campaigns to emphasize differences between her and her competitors, not outright lies. But, I grant they represent some intentional distortion and misinformation. I'm still convinced that compared to Trump, Hillary is a lightweight liar.
     
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    Many people do not agree with you. Hillary is the quintessential Liar and her and trump are neck and neck in the dishonesty department - Unlike most people accused of dishonesty, Clinton and Trump are true liars
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    Safire in a 1996 essay when, after reviewing her record, he concluded she was a "congenital liar". Nothing has changed. Trump makes some outrageous exaggerations and the left calls them lies but none of that comes close to Hillary's past and present.
     
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    Well, no, that was his reward for gross incompetence.
     
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    She lied about being for traditional marriage. I lived through the Clinton White House days and the lies about the Travel office, Rose Law Firm records, Whitewater, and all the smarmy, sleazy rest were abundant and were openly refuted by testimony of others involved in the incidents.One of the most egregious was about the video causing Benghazi. Here is a YouTube of the father of one of the dead heros describing how she lied to his face about the video being the cause of the incident: [video=youtube;dMx0huMabos]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMx0huMabos[/video]
     
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    Hillary Clinton does lie. That said, nobody, and I mean nobody, has ever lied as often while running for President as Donald Trump. Almost every claim he makes is false. Some of them so ridiculous that nobody with any brains at all would ever believe them. As I say, if you've resorted to calling fact checkers with a clear past of calling out lies from the right and left bias, you must lie an awful lot.
     
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    He didn't lose because he was being honest, he lost because he was a lousy president.
     

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