A petition calling for Hillsborough disaster Cabinet papers to be released has reached 100,000 signatures - enough for a Commons debate to be considered. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/15/newsid_2491000/2491195.stm About time. Questions need to be answered.
The Tories will never allow them to be released; not while the witch Maggie is still alive (which hopefully won't be for very long!!)
What happened ... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SmM9KuhIQ"]The Hillsborough Disaster 1989 Unfolds - YouTube[/ame]
Nick Clegg, what an arsewipe. Sold out his party for 30 pieces of silver. Scumbag in the extreme. Heard he got paintbombed today. Probably one of the students he conned who now can't get an education.
I doubt Clegg think would have kept his promise on tuition fes even if somehow he'd won a majority. It was completely unrealistic. He'd have been required to treat all EU students in the same way, and with a target of 50% of British children going to university, the cost would would have been astronomical. But he can fight for some things. He gets quite fired up about human rights laws for example. It gives Cameron a convenient excuse next time he holds up his hands in despair at the effect they have, which is ridiculous when the Tories outnumber the Lib Dems by more than 5:1. Still, it means that Tory supporters can keep telling themselves that it will be alright if only they can get a majority next time. I don't much care about parties being sold out, it's the way politicians have sold out the people of the country which makes me mad. Sky Sports reports that the government is "happy" for the Hillsborough papers to be released. I'm surprised the last government didn't just do it.
Maybe. Or maybe it is respect for the privacy of the victims and families. Still...there may be a "discredit the Police so we can justify restructuring them and cutting their numbers" campaign under way. If the papers are detrimental to Police, they might be publicised. Tamora, what do you expect the papers to reveal?
I don't know what they'll reveal, if anything at all. What Thatcher said or didn't say isn't a concern for me. She wasn't there and had nothing to do with what happened. That's not to say the actions of both the police and the fans should not be questioned. Would it have been reasonable to delay the start of the game after the motorway congestion held fans up? Why did the police refuse to take the fences down when it should have been obvious that it was no pitch invasion? Why did they allow the central pen to overfill to almost double its sensible capacity? Why didn't they check fans they allowed in had tickets? Was it simply because they were useless at crowd control? How much did drunkeness play a part, if it played a part at all? To hear some people talk Liverpool fans never touched a drop of alcohol, never turned up drunk to a game and were models of good behaviour. It was only 4 years before that they had been involved in the Heysel football disaster, in which Liverpool fans rioted in the ground, crushing a wall and with it 39 Juventus fans! The fans who were crushed at Hillsborough arrived early and in good order; and most if not all, were blameless and deserved better, and their families deserve to know why they died. Maybe the papers will simply reveal that it was a horrible tragedy that no one could have foreseen or prevented without the benefit of hindsight. Having said that, the behaviour of football fans is much better these days!
The end of the article tells the part of the story that is most important. Why on earth did Liverpool receive such a poor allocation?? The Kop would have been the correct allocation for Liverpool. The idea that the "evil" conservatives are blocking the release to protect Thatcher is just left wing paranoia.
I do wish people here would make their minds up, one minute I'm a Nazi, next I'm spreading left wing paranoia!
Remember, Scousers never buy The Sun. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uWw7kuiCss"]Billy Bragg - Never Buy The Sun - Studio Version - YouTube[/ame]
