Hippies And Rednecks

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  1. ibshambat

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    I have known a number of people who are commonly termed “rednecks.” I found that the conversation starter among them is either “with all taxes you're paying don't you feel like you're living in a socialist country” or “if I found my wife in bed with another man, I would shoot them both.”

    I have known a number of women who've lived with such men, and many of them tell horror stories. And of course for a long time I held that constituency in contempt. However my life experiences have taught me respect for these people. They are strong. They are hard-working. They are ethical. And all of these traits are worthy of respect.

    I have also known a number of hippies; and of course rednecks and hippies have for a long time been enemies. However they both appear to have had the same idea. They did not like life in the civilization, so they moved to the country to have free lives. Among these two, the rednecks did a better job. They did a better job of providing for themselves and of defending themselves.

    Among the hippies, some stayed in the country and gave birth to the organic farming industry. Many more moved back to the civilization, where they used their intellect and creativity to create the computer industry and the Wall Street boom. Some among the first group see the second group as having sold out. However I see them as having made a better choice. Once again, they used their intellect and creativity to create something beneficial. And that is a much better choice than remaining potheads while contributing very little of merit to the country.

    In dealing with any population, it is important to see both what they are right about and what they are wrong about. The rednecks are right to work hard and to encourage strength. Where they err is when they support violence against wives and children. There is absolutely no excuse for that. It is possible for people to become tough without having to face directionless violence or abusive behavior; and I, doing tons of rigorous exercise, am hardly a weak man.

    What is the solution to this? As always, it is about seeing what people are right about and what they are wrong about. Strength and hard work are good values, and they should be kept. But there is much less to recommend domestic violence or abuse of children.

    The country will continue to exist. The question is, in what form? I do not want to see these people eviscerated. But neither do I want to see these people to force wrongful and abusive attitudes on the civilization. Many of these people really do have valuable things to offer. And it is important that they be seen for this and treated with respect that is due what they contribute to the country.
     
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    Ibshambat.

    If more persons could write 1 paragraph for each letter of his/her name, there might not be enough books to contain all the writings.
     
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    Sounds like you need a change of scenery. IME hippies and rednecks mix quite well. Of course, I speak of the original hippies. They like the woods, smoking weed, homemade wine, making their own clothes, driving old trucks, and they dont trust the govt.

    Are you sure you're not confusing hippies with TRENDIES?
     
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    What do we do about this? Is that your main question?

    For starters stop referring to people as rednecks and hippies. Maybe then we can get somewhere.
     
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    No, I don't think I am. I have known hippies who stayed hippies and I have known hippies who went back to the metropolitan areas and got into work. Some in the first group think that the second group has sold out; but once again I see them as actually having done something more valuable with themselves than did the first group.
     
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    What makes what those that 'returned to the metro areas' do 'more valuable' than what those that didn't do?
     
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    Well, I think that creating the computer industry was a very valuable endeavor, as was extending finance around the world. The ones who stayed in the country did a good thing by starting the organic farming industry. But the ones who moved back to the civilization had greater impact.
     
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    So you think the computwr industry was started by hippies?

    We probably dont have very similar ideas of what hippies are.
     
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    Your experience of rednecks is quite different to mine.

    Mine is that they're poorly educated, lower socio-economic angry misfits (chips on shoulders due to the aforementioned lack of education/class). They invariably drink and/or smoke, and have a dependence upon cartoonish symbols of masculinity. Or rather, masculinity as their peers might see it. Symbols like Pitbulls, cars, beer, meat eating, etc. They're always very trashy.

    The people you describe as rednecks are what I would refer to as rural conservatives.
     
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    Ditto. Real hippies wouldn't dream of getting involved in anything related to technology.
     
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    I wouldn't say that. The most quintessential hippie I know (woodstock, acid, flower power, etc) is a digital radio whiz.

    But I don't think its possible to be a hippie and an industrialist...
     
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    Country DJ's knows that I'm an outlaw
    They'd never come to see me in this dive
    Where bikers stare at cowboys
    Who are laughing at the hippies
    Who are praying they'll get outta here alive

    The loud mouth in the corner's gettin' to me
    Talking 'bout my earrings and my hair
    I guess he ain't read the signs that say I been to prison
    Someone ought to warn him 'fore I knock him off his chair

    Cause my longhair just can't cover up my red neck.....



    Read more: David Allan Coe - Long Haired Redneck Lyrics | MetroLyrics
     
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    Since no mention of President Trump, you must be referring to the Red Necks of your Home World.....
     
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    Steven Jobs was very much a hippie. From what I hear, there were people among hippies who objected to the computer industry because they felt that it was going to give the government too much power, and there were people among hippies who championed the computer industry because they believed that it was going to empower the people. Of course we have seen both. I have worked in the computer industry for a long time, and I have respect for people I've worked with. However of course whenever we have anything that benefits people we have something that can benefit bad people, and we have seen that with the computer industry as well.
     
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    If Steve Jobs was ever a hippie, he stopped being one imo when he partnered with Foxconn.
     
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    we have plenty of those in the city as well - most of those masculinity wannabes just put on a show of pretending to be tough and masculine, but it's just a show often masking their many insecurities

    invariably they vote Republican
     
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    Do not confuse Hippies with today's
    Yuppies, there are very few real Hippies left anymore, once the Vietnam War ended, much of the impetus of Hippie resistance faded and Yuppies replaced them.
     

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