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Yes, reminds me of many 'Afrikan -Americans' like this;

[video=youtube;RvVfgvHucRY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=RvVfgvHucRY[/video]

 

Frankly without context none of what you posted makes any sense.

 

Frankly, unless you have studied Egyptology then your opinion has absolutely no merit and that, is a fact, context, context.

 

Not a problem.

Anytime anyone claims that someone has to be some sort of expert to understand their theory about history, I realize who I am dealing with.

Enjoy peddling your snake oil.

 

Frankly, once again the American imperialists (this time Afro -Americans) try to steal history and heritage for the poor people .

but keep going its funny , whats about Hannibal? any picture from your private collection of the historical hoaxes ?

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where have you been studding Egyptology?

 

You stick with your heritage and let them stick with theirs.

Heres one especially for you guys that feel left out;

[video=youtube;0KSOMA3QBU0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=0KSOMA3QBU0[/video]

 

OMG, yes, you are right!

I forgot, I saw Blacks running Egypt in a music video, you must be right!

[video=youtube;LeiFF0gvqcc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc[/video]

 

Lighten up mushroom. You cant always be right.

 

do you think that white people see this video as an evidence ? have you been in Egypt? do they black or white people ?

 

He isn't always- but he usually is- Mushroom pretty much only comments when he knows his stuff.

And I have seen Mushroom admit to being wrong.

Which is a rarity here on the boards.

 

never seen him before, you two must post about the same things, hmm wonder what that can be

 

idont understand why white americans get so upset. you have your heritage [viking] and they have theirs [km.t] simple. its not even your business who they decide to associate with. Do they tell you youre not viking or that youre not saxon?? no, of course they dont.

 

Once again- I have no clue what you are prattling on about and how that has anything to do with this thread.

 

Of course, it also helps that I almost never discuss "politics", in which there is no right or wrong, only opinion.

I also do this little thing called "research" before I make a post, so I (try) to avoid in making simple mistakes.

And as you said, I only participate in threads where I have an interest and some knowledge in the subject matter. Generally this means Military, Science, and History. I really am pretty neutral politically, have no interest in the "he said - she said" nature of "internet debates", I just want to get and receive accurate information. Nothing more, and nothing less. Anybody who looks to my posts for some kind of political angle is generally going to be sorely disappointed.

And if I make a mistake, I do not "double down" and make it worse. I just verify the information, and if I was wrong go mea culpa and move on.

 

Well, if you read the above, you will know where I mostly post. I think about 80% of my posts have been dedicated to the military threads. The rest are spread between history, science, computers, humor, and Conspiracy Theory (which I generally go to when I am bored and want a laugh).

But there is no political angle with me, I reject the radicals on both side of the political spectrum, and always reject any kind of bigotry no matter who aims it to others, or who it is aimed at. And I am sure SF has seen some of my spectacular meltdowns upon those who confuse PF with SF.

Some have even been mostly "allies" of mine in here, but if they spout some kind of bigoted nonsense, they are fair game just as if their avatar was a pair of crossed hammers instead of some kind of funny picture.

 

Right, that might explain your lack of interest in learning about Ancient Egypt. They were a very peaceful civilization, especially in comparison to pretty much all other civilizations. That said, im no expert on the Indus Valley but they appear to be another peaceful ppl.

 

Oh bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

The Egyptians were a civilization that extended over 3,000 years. And they alternated between cycles of almost total inward contemplation, to violent expansionism. Especially under Ramesses II and Thutmoses I, the Egyptian Empire spread all the way up to modern Turkey, the habitable areas of Libya, all the way into modern Iran.

Want to tell me again how they were a "very peaceful civilization?"

Here, let me tell you a little story.

The first is the first Battle of Megiddo. It involved the forces of Thutmose III, and their attempts to put down a rebellion against his rule by the Kadeshian King. For this battle, he amassed over 15,000 men and marched them to what is now in northern Israel. With his 15,000 soldiers and 1,000 chariots he fell upon the rebelling Caananite forces, and utterly destroyed the enemy forces. Routing the enemy, capturing over 900 chariots, then laying siege to the city they had their command post in. After 7 months the city was assaulted, then sacked, then burned.

Then let us fast-forward about 800 years. Once again we have an ascendant Egypt, ruled by Necho II. And he is allied with the Assyrians so is going to assist them against the Babylonians. Same plain with a city on the mountain as before, Megiddo. And once again, a strong and might Egyptian Army sweeps away everything in their path, utterly destroying the enemy (this time one of the people mentioned in the Bible, King Josiah of Judea).

And from these to Egyptian battles far up in northern Israel/Judea, we now have the word Armageddon.

So don't even try that "oh they were misunderstood peaceful people" crapola on me. The problem is that I can recognize crap, and have no problem at all calling crap out for exactly what it is.

So before you try to insult me again, I suggest you come and bring in some facts, not just some moonbeams and stardust.

And if you think I am "uninterested", think on the fact that I am discussing military history, something I already stated I pay close attention to. But nice try, to bad it is a try fail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(609_BC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(15th_century_BC)

 

What a joke. Copy and Paste wikipedia and pretend to understand it why not. Ican see the problem here.

No wonder you are uninterested in kemet if all you can do is read wikipedia article about it, swallow and regurgitate some random factoid.

Kemet has a 5,000+ year history and you want me to accept 2 examples of so-called aggression towards foreigners and so making Afrikans aggressive because what? Because mushroom said so?

Give me a break. Dont come in here acting like you know anything about the subject, be humble, discuss and you might learn something. Then again, you dont want to learn which is why you will proceed to hurl insults in order to create an atmosphere of hate. Take your hate to the army forum where its welcomed.

thanks.

 

Kemet was a peaceful civilization.

Just because mushroom wants desperately to believe otherwise does not make it so. They never really expanded out beyond their border although they were the most powerful empire for thousands of years.

 

Were his facts incorrect? You claim to be the "Egyptologist".

Mushroom presented two examples Egypt's foreign military campaigns. You can either demonstrate that his claims are false, or you can explain why those military campaigns don't represent non-peaceful behavior.

But right now you are just sputtering, not responding with any actual content.

And there was no 'hate' in Mushroom's post that I saw- I think you are projecting.

 

In all fairness.

African civilizations were neither more nor less aggressive than any other.

As for the Egyptian empire it did not extend as far as Iran.
The empire was halted at the battle of Khadesh and although Ramesses II fought against the Babylonians, he did not conquer them and did not rule over them.

 

They were defending the border, not the same as imperialism per se. That doesnt mean they were an aggressive ppl, quite the contrary if you ever studied them with any interest.
where did iclaim that iwas an egyptologist?

 

Defending the border in Palestine?

My apology- you never made that claim, and clearly that was a silly assumption on my part.

 

yes, unless you think defending a border means standing behind a wall lobbing stones

 

Please,. if I did a "copy and paste", then you should be able to easily prove it. Show exactly how I did a "copy and paste", or (*)(*)(*)(*).

Nothing about my post is "C&P", and if I had it would have been as a quote.

But no quote, so not copy and paste. You really are desperate. I simply did something known as "research", surely an unknown concept to you.

So please, if I did as you said, you can easily prove it. So prove it, or be gone.

This is somewhat open to interpretation. And I have no problem conceding Iran, although the fact that they held parts of modern Iraq is not much in question.

Many of the "Egyptian Expansions" were like the Roman ones centuries later. And that is not direct rule over a region, but vassalage and intermarriage between other kingdoms. Israel and Judea were many times part of the "Egyptian Empire", just as Judea was part of the Roman Empire.

During the middle Mittani Empire, the two nations were almost in a Lord-Vassal arrangement, with even the Mittani Royal Family intermarried with the Egyptian Royal Family (the sister of Tushratta was the wife of Thutmose III, and mother of Amenhotep III). During this era some have suggested such a client-sponsor relationship between the two nations, which lasted for over 100 years until the Egyptians threw the Mittani under the Hittite-Assyrian bus.

The Mittani Empire covered mostly what is now Eastern Iraq and Western Iran.