Hitler or Stalin? Same o’ same o’

Interesting essay. I remember American Obamamania two years ago. Now he is compared with Hitler. Hah! The USA experience system crisis. But I suspect that Obama will be criticized for all troubles of mankind. It looks like someone wants to make from him the whipping boy.

 

I'm always amused by such figures of the victims. The most interesting thing is nobody wants to include logic and to check up this crap. The attempt number one million hundred twenty four to ask an American to find the demographic hole in the dynamics of population of the USSR. As according to you Stalin has killed not less than 20 million persons, this hole should be obvious. Maybe you'll be more successful? So find it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Soviet_Union

 

This is very funny opinion. It is obviously you do not know own history. The USA are created on the lands of the American natives. Likely it was Indians who have invited Pilgrim Fathers to their continent.

By the way residents of the Russian Far East for a long time remembered the peaceful American invaders who visited us at 1918. You will not find such information in English. I do not want to translate, use Google translator to read about the atrocities of your soldiery. http://d-pankratov.ru/archives/2553

 

I am not amused. My father was among numerous victims. The exact number will never be known. But this should not prevent us from exposing Stalinism. Why should "only 10 million" of innocent victims of proletarian dictatorship, or "only 5" be less convincing than "20 million" or "40 million"?
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The exact figure is already known for a long time. During the period since 1921 to 1953 were placed in prisons 4 060 306 persons. Death verdicts 799 455. The bigest quantity of death verdicts at 1937 - 353 074 and 1938 - 328 618 persons. In other years on the average since 1 000 to 4 000 persons. Compare it to figures of the modern prison population in the USA for example. Simply nobody even does not want to be interested in well-known statistics and prefer to exaggerate legends about trillion Stalin's victims. Because legends help to discredit an ideological opponent and to control idiots.

 

You see,all victims of stalinism are declared innocent!

What does it mean?It means that they were not active enemies of the regime,but loyal citizens.

What does it mean?It means that all Russians were loyal to the regime wich murdered millions of innocents,and even loved it's leader ("cult of personality").

What does it mean?It means that Russians are defective,for the normal people can not love such a terrible regime.

What does it mean?It means that Russians are submen,it means that Hitler was absolutely right : people are divided into superior and inferior races.

A genetic link between Nazism and anti-Stalinism is well observed.

 

Is this a joke? Tell me it's all a big wind up, a megatroll. Please tell me you aint serious. Come on, you are kidding arent you.

 

To daft punk: Yeah. Like Einstein was kidding about E=mc2.

 

no

yes

yes

what evidence?

what ways?

This is utter nonsense. The Nazis' ideology was not socialism, it was opposition to socialism.

Utter nonsense. There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama is carrying out anything remotely socialist. What nationalisation is he carrying out?

This is total insanity. Pro-choice is nothing to do with genocide, it is to do with women's rights.

This is some of the most ludicrous stuff I have ever read on the net.

 

You are trying for nothing to reanimate the dead talk.Do not you see that Flanders has already exhausted?

 

This is correct. Why do some of the right wingers find it so hard to accept?

 

This is very stupid. The famine in Russia in 1921 was caused by

1. drought
2. WW1, the bourgeois carve up of the globe, caused by Germany being late on the colonial scene
3. the civil war started by the pro-capitalist White generals etc.
4. the foreign intervention of 200,000 troops from capitalist countries
5. The starvation of Russia by the west via an economic embargo
6. the peasants being reluctant to plant grain due to requisitioning, which the Bolsheviks had no choice over.

support that the Chinese government ordered 30 -100 million killings and that Stalin killed 20 million. These were bad regimes but why make up stupid numbers?

 

There has never been a communist country.

rubbish

"Political liberty is sham-liberty, the worst possible slavery; the appearance of liberty, and therefore the reality of servitude. Political equality is the same; therefore democracy, as well as every other form of government, must ultimately break to pieces: hypocrisy cannot subsist, the contradiction hidden in it must come out; we must have either a regular slavery — that is, an undisguised despotism, or real liberty, and real equality — that is, Communism."
Engels, 1843
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/10/23.htm

"Since human nature is the true community of men, by manifesting their nature men create, produce, the human community, the social entity, which is no abstract universal power opposed to the single individual, but is the essential nature of each individual, his own activity, his own life, his own spirit, his own wealth. Hence this true community does not come into being through reflection, it appears owing to the need and egoism of individuals, i.e., it is produced directly by their life activity itself. It does not depend on man whether this community exists or not; but as long as man does not recognise himself as man, and therefore has not organised the world in a human way, this community appears in the form of estrangement, because its subject, man, is a being estranged from himself. Men, not as an abstraction, but as real, living, particular individuals, are this entity. Hence, as they are, so is this entity itself. To say that man is estranged from himself, therefore, is the same thing as saying that the society of this estranged man is a caricature of his real community, of his true species-life, that his activity therefore appears to him as a torment, his own creation as an alien power, his wealth as poverty, the essential bond linking him with other men as an unessential bond, and separation from his fellow men, on the other hand, as his true mode of existence, his life as a sacrifice of his life, the realisation of his nature as making his life unreal, his production as the production of his nullity, his power over an object as the power of the object over him, and he himself, the lord of his creation, as the servant of this creation."

Marx
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/james-mill/