Hitler said:

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    That is in a religious context, not in any kind of genetic or "racial" context. It is along the lines of Christiand being "Saved", Budhists being "Enlightened", and any other religious context. And it is the exact same covenent with God (known as the Abrahamic Covenant) that Islam claims also makes them a "Chosen People".
     
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    But as an aside, here are some real quotes by der paper hanger.

    “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

    “Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”

    “If you win, you need not have to explain...If you lose, you should not be there to explain!”

    “It is not truth that matters, but victory.”

    “By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.”

    “I do not see why man should not be as cruel as nature”

    “The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”

    “I don't see much future for the Americans ... it's a decayed country. And they have their racial problem, and the problem of social inequalities ... my feelings against Americanism are feelings of hatred and deep repugnance ... everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it's half Judaised, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a State like that to hold together?”

    And to me one of his most important ones:

    “The man who has no sense of history, is like a man who has no ears or eyes”
     
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    Sounds like something dear Adolph would say.
     
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    You do realise Hitler was referring to the [Jewish/socialist] media?

    We can see this happening now, records of the past are being warped and selectively remembered. Any historical political organisation whose memory could be detrimental to the modern social agenda has to be demonised. Why is the African Nation Congress remembered as heroic liberators, while the Ku Klux Klan is remembered as being evil? Why are Marxists allowed high positions in public universities, but neo-nazis are blatently and openy shunned and discriminated against? Why are "white" people remembered for enslaving and oppressing Blacks, but remembering jewish oppression is considered "anti-semetic"? Why is "affirmative action" for non-white people open to debate, while affirmative action for non-jews would be taboo? (the nazis set a quota so that jews could not be overrepresented in german universities by more than 50%) I could go on and on.
     
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    Research and knowledge fail.

    I now give you the entire passage, from Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter X:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

    All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.


    And now compare it to the following quote, from Joseph Goebbels:

    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

    Of course, he is talking about a statement from his leader, but making it relate to the German State. If you actually read his autobiography, Hitler claims that they originated the idea, but he perfected it.

    But it did not even originate there.

    A lie told often enough becomes truth. - V. Lenin

    SO when you look at the phrase in it's context, it is obvious that it is not meant the way you claim it is.

    As for the rest of your racist rant, it is pure nonsense. Tell me, how many "Jews" fall under the classification of being a minority for "Affirmitive Action"? (*)(*)(*)(*)ed few, I can promise you that.
     
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    No argument is too ludicrous to defend the Jews...
    To claim to be chosen by the Creator of all humans is the most extreme kind of racism that can exist. It is not like being saved or enlightened. Non-jews are reduced to goim - cattle, althoug the Judaism is the only world religion which provides that even non-jews may have a place in heaven. What we have is Judaism and the abuse of Judaism.

    And Zionism is 100 % political and has nothing to do with Judaism.

    The Zionist media control mainly in the US makes it possible that people support and defend the Number 1 UN-resolution gatherer and his weak-willed enforcer uncritical while fill forums with the comparatively futile deeds of others.
     
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    And name me a single religion that does not claim that to be the case?

    Catholicism, Protestentism, Eastern Orthadox, Islam, Mormonism, even the Westboro Baptist Church makes that claim. That they are the chosen ones, and everybody else is either at the end of the line, or condemned to Hell because they are not so chosen.

    So your claim is pure nonsense. This is not race, it is religion. And every religion shares the same beliefs.
     
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    No, because thereis a major differences. Christians, Muslims and all the others are traveling around to convert people to their religion. But you willnever meet a Jewm who says: "Become a Jew." You cannot become a Jew, if you are not born as Jew.

    Racism:
    "The State of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians has been compared by United Nations investigators, human rights groups and critics of Israeli policy to South Africa's treatment of non-whites during its apartheid era. Israel has also been accused of committing the crime of apartheid. Critics of Israeli policy say that "a system of control" in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, including Jewish-only settlements, separate roads, military checkpoints, discriminatory marriage law, the West Bank barrier, use of Palestinians as cheap labour, Palestinian West Bank enclaves, inequities in infrastructure, legal rights, and access to land and resources between Palestinians and Israeli residents in the Israeli-occupied territories resembles some aspects of the South African apartheid regime, and that elements of Israel's occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law. Some commentators extend the analogy, or accusation, to include Arab citizens of Israel, describing their citizenship status as second-class.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy


    You have to wonder what the National Post was up to, when it published its amazing lying articles on alleged Iranian sumptuary laws involving identification of minority groups. By publishing the original front-page article with a huge picture from Nazi Germany (front page reprinted here and here, but the article itself appears to have disappeared; by the way, is there an uglier front page design in the world?), it explicitly connected the current Iranian government with Nazi Germany. Since the entire story was an outright lie, a fact which you could easily see from the preposterousness of the story as well as a fact which an editor at the Post could have instantly discovered with one phone call to the Iranian embassy in Ottawa, a Holocaust revisionist might use this incident as evidence that the entire story of German treatment of the Jews is also a lie. Two similar lies on the same front page! You would think the Zionists who run the Post would be a little more careful with the legacy of the Holocaust.

    The original article by Amir Taheri (the article with the front page picture was by Chris Wattie, who also wrote the clean-up article – note another deceitful picture beside it!), which attempted to be a little more circumspect (but is still factually untrue), is obvious anti-Iranian propaganda, a fact made even clearer by the fact that the writer is associated with Benador Associates, the extreme right-wing political PR spinners. But why did the Post run it so ridiculously prominently, above-the-fold front page with a huge headline and a huge picture? My guess is that the fake racism-in-Iran story was intended to deflect attention from the real racism-in-Israel story. David Frum even apologized for the story on Iran by stating that the original idea for Nazi sumptuary laws came from Baghdad in the era of Charlemagne, so it is not unfair to Iran (wtf? – is David Frum on drugs?). The massage is that Islam, and in particular this Iranian government, is racist.

    Just before the National Post story came out, the Israeli Supreme court approved the Israeli laws barring family reunification for Israelis married to Palestinians from the Occupied Territories. Since it is only Arab Israeli citizens who marry Palestinians, it forces Israeli citizens to leave the country based entirely on their racial origin. It is an expressly racist law, and has an exact parallel in the first Nuremberg Race Law of 1935, in which Nazi Germany prohibited marriage between ‘Germans’ and Jews (see here with a handy German chart which the Israelis should translate into Hebrew and post in public places). This law is apparently deeply troubling for North American Jews, and it is impossible to explain how its approval by the Israeli Supreme Court can be consistent with the stories we hear of how Israel is a ‘democracy’ which supports human rights. This little lyin’ story about Iran may be a clumsy attempt to hide real Zionist racism behind phony Islamic racism.
    http://xymphora.blogspot.de/2006/05/stinkin-yellow-badges-and-israels.html
     
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    Not true, which makes me wonder how many Jews you actually know. While it is true that the Jewish faith is no longer a proselytistic faith, it has been so in the past. And if you actually know and understand, the answer should be obvious.

    To the Christian faith, all must know Jesus to be saved. To the Islamic faith, all must follow the word of Allah through Mohammed to attain paradise. To the Jewish faith, you only need to follow the Noahide Laws, as passed from God to Noah. And since all three of those religions are Abrahamic religions and follow both the laws of Abraham and Noah in addition to the Laws of Moses, they all are also going to heaven.

    Therefore, there is no need to reach out and try to convert Christians and Muslims. They all have their own special relationship with God, and there is no need to interfere with it.

    But in the past, there were many Jewish Missions sent out to attempt to convert non-Abrahamic religions. Multiple missions were sent to India and modern Pakistan to teach the word to the Hindu's. Also to those even farther that followed the Buddhist beliefs. And many were sent around Europe which is why Jews were found everywhere in the Ancient World, from Egypt and Rome to the British Isles and the lands of the Rus.

    And if you knew anything about the Khazars, you would know that the entire Royalty and Nobility of that nation converted to Judiasm in the 10th century.

    And for not accepting converts, that is simply crazy. A lot of people have converted. Tom Arnold, Steve Yeager, Jackie Wilson, Sammy Davis Jr, Elizabeth Taylor, Ike Turner, Marilyn Monroe, Laura Schlessinger, Mary Hart, Miss Elizabeth, Jim Croce, Connie Chung, Nell Carter, Kate Capshaw, Polly Bergen, there is a long list of only famous people who have converted. But many-many more convert every year. Many simply do not do it because the requirements are generally much harder then it is to convert to Christianity (where you generally only need to be baptized and take communion). A great many men balk at conversion because of the requirements of circumscision (which takes up a big deal of debate in the early days of the Christian faith, if you have ever read the Bible).

    So I am not sure where you get this twisted view of Jews, but it is not in agreement with history and reality.
     
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    Germany was trying to break the credit ring of the money monopolists by the force of economic sanity and that was unforgivable. She was acting like a worker who went on strike against system which deprived him of adequate food supplies though he as quite willing to exchange his labor to pay for them.

    "In 1937 Hitler said:

    'Germany will enter into no obligations to pay for her im- ports than she is capable of fulfilling. The German Government thus takes the standpoint of the respectable merchant who keeps his orders in harmony with his power to pay. We laugh at the time when our national economists held the view that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold and securities lying in the vaults of a State Bank; and more especially we laugh at the theory that its value was guaranteed thereby. We have instead come to learn that the value of a currency lies in the productive capacity of a nation.‘[/quote]The world financial monopoly stood aghast. If Germany succeeded in her plan of economic penetration, other nations might follow per example. The whole world would then exchange goods for goods in a basis of equality and good fellowship. No one would want to borrow and the financial pyramid of debt, from the apex of which Almighty Finance ruled the world, would
    collapse. Humanity would be well fed, but the financiers would lose their power.

    If the German monetary experiment had been allowed to develop on the basis of a friendly exchange of goods it would have provided the world with useful information to assist it in solving its commercial problems.

    What was a laudable effort on the part of Germany has become a world war -- a war of ideas in which Hitler strives to form a European economic monopoly opposed to the financial monopolies of the world.

    Statesmen began to prepare the public mind for war. No mention was made of the real causes of the crisis -- the bitter scramble for world markets, the trickery and inhuman methods used to obtain spheres of influence for surplus investments and for increasing the burden of world debt. Statesmen again were preparing to sacrifice the youth of their country on the bloody alter of Mammon.

    “As in peace, so in war. Humanity must be sacrificed to save a worthless economic system.”

    "Once again the peoples were told that if they destroyed the leader of the German nation all would be well with the world. Germany worshipped its leader. Britain trusted its Government. Both peoples believed their leaders would save the world. It was a tragedy of faith in men. One nation has to fight for a new economic and political system the other to preserve the old ones.

    Source: AMERICAN MANIFEST DESTINY AND THE HOLOCAUSTS, BY CONRAD GRIEB (Liberty Bell, 1978), pp 233-236

    It is a dangerous game to place people above profits. Like Abe Lincoln and President John F. Kennedy, not long after he defied the interests of international finance Adolf Hitler was dead.

    The death of Twenty to Fifty Million gentiles is nothing to the jewish criminal bankers when it comes to protecting their rackets.[/QUOTE]

    ....and this justifies genocide?
     
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    And for that we are eternally thankfull to the Bothans.
     
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    Because the folk Israel is the chosen one (note: folk, not religion) nobody can join it but only through Jewish birth. Some Jewish communities accept a conversion, but when you relocate, the new community may not accept you. It is clear that you never will be a real Jew if you are a proselyte.



    You ignore that Jeses and Mohamed were send by God in the Christendom and Islam, Jesus is even God´s son in the Christendom. So it is not about a maggot of these religions what we are talking about but essential parts to believe in Jesus and tofollow Mohamed. Christianity and Christendom come from Christus by the way.



    Each can construe this his own way.



    No, God punished the folk Israel and ordered its distractibility across the world.



    They maybe became their henchmen.
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    http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/historical-discourse/70997-political-history-film-jud-s.html
     
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    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Last I checked (December 2011), this shows up on 500,000 web pages and twenty published books (most of which are vanity press productions, evidence for the value of publishers who still believe in editors). It is attributed to Joseph Goebbels. No one ever gives a citation to the source. A fair number of web citations are to “Joseph M. Goebbels.” That wasn't his middle initial. One book credits it to “Joseph Goebbel.”

    There are several hundred pages in German that cite the statement, but none give a source
     
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    02-14-2011, 05:39 AM (This post was last modified: 02-15-2011 09:20 PM by Infinite.) Post: #1
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    Hitler's "Big Lie" Quote, & Conspiracy Research/Philosophy
    The source of Big Lie technique is this passage, taken from Chapter 10 of James Murphy's who is jewish translation of Mein Kampf:

    But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
    All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

    —Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]

    In that same chapter, Hitler accused "the Jews" of what he claimed was their use of the Big Lie. - source

    It kind of annoys me how people always paraphrase this quote while leaving out the fact that he was talking about other people lying, specifically the Jews, as opposed to saying that he was the one employing this propaganda technique. it's just intellectually dishonest. I'm bringing it up because I was just listening to an audio file from Leonard Horowitz who is jewish where he cited the quote in this misleading context.
     
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    Anyone else consider Hitler a guy who simply couldn't **** or it is only me ?
     
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    You never cease to post these jewish fabrications of Hitler Speeches. You can find millions of them all over the web.
    Please use only actual Hitler speeches .
     
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    Yes- please post only actual Hitler speeches where he sounds like a genocidal maniac.

    Not fake ones.
     
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    Non-Jews are “Supernal Refuse”

    Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are regarded as “supernal refuse” (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.

    This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: “…there are some powerful ironies in Habad’s new messianic universalism, in its mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them concerns Habad’s otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim.

    “…medieval Jewish theologians–most notably the poet and philosopher Judah Ha-Levi in twelfth century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in sixteenth-century Prague–sought to define the Jewish distinction racially rather than spiritually…this…view, according to which there is something innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated in its most extreme form by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The
    founder of Lubavitcher Hasidism taught that there is a difference of essence between the souls of Jews and the souls of gentiles, that only in the Jewish soul does there reside a spark of divine vitality.

    “As for the goyim…Zalman’s attitude (was): ‘Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.’

    Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman’s teachings are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels…All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil.”

    Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed

    Israeli “Torah scholars” have ruled that:

    “The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life by virtue of observing their religion…And while the Christians do generally accept the Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them (those who accept the so-called divinity of Jesus) are idolaters according to the Torah, punishable by death, and certainly will not enjoy the World to Come.”

    And I just couldn’t leave out this whopper of a LIE:

    “Here are two early “Holocaust” tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).”–The Truth about the Talmud, ©2000 by Michael A. Hoffman II and Alan R. Critchley
     
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    Not just Hitler, but anybody that still believes in his insane ramblings.

    Of course, nobody ever accused racists of being overly endowed with intelligence.
     
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    Thanks for the bump mut. It is nonracists like you who have no tribe to defend that are first to cry out for total anilization of the remaining pure bloods be they Japanese, German, English, French or any ancient tribe or Kingdom. All One Race of Mixbreeds.
     
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    Hitler was an insane debased dispicable human being not fit to have our feet wiped off on.
     
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    The life of Leon Degrelle began in 1906 in Bouillon, a small town in the Belgian Ardennes. His family was of French origin.

    He studied at the University of Louvain, where he acquired a doctorate in law. He was -and is -also interested in other academic disciplines, such as political science, art, archeology and Tomistic philosophy.

    As a student his natural gift of leadership became apparent. By the time he reached twenty he had already published five books and operated his own weekly newspaper. Out of his deep Christian conviction he joined Belgium's Catholic Action Movement and became one of its leaders.

    But his passion has always been people.

    He wanted to win the crowds, particularly the Marxist ones. He wanted them to 5hare his ideals of social and spiritual change for society. He wanted to lift people up; to forge for them a stable, efficient and responsible state, a state backed by the good sense of people and for the sole benefit of the people.

    He addressed more than 2,000 meetings, always controversial. His, books and newspaper were read everywhere because they always dealt with the real issues. Although not yet twenty-five, people listened to him avidly.

    In a few short years he had won over a large part of the population. On the twenty-fourth of May 1936 his Rexist Party won against the established parties a smashing electoral victory: Thirty-four house and senate seats.

    The Europe of 1936 was still split into little countries, jealous of their pasts and closed to any contact with their neighbors.

    Leon Degrelle saw further. In his student days he had traveled across Latin America, the United States and Canada. He had visited North Africa, the Middle East and of course all of the European countries. He felt that Europe had a unique destiny and must unite.

    Mussolini invited him to Rome. Churchill saw him in London and Hitler received him in Berlin.

    Putting his political life on the line, he made desperate efforts to stop the railroading of Europe into another war. But old rivalries, petty hatreds and suspicion between the French and the German, were cleverly exploited. The established parties and the Communist Party worked on the same side: for war. For the Kremlin it was a unique opportunity to communize Europe after it had been bled white.

    Thus, war started. First in Poland, then in Western Europe in 1940. This was to become the Second World War in 1941.

    Soon the flag of the Swastika flew from the North Pole to the shores of Greece to the border of Spain.

    But the European civil war between England and Germany continued. And the rulers of Communism got ready to move in and pick up the pieces.

    But Hitler beat them to it and invaded the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. For Europe it was to be heads or tails; Hitlers wins or Stalin wins.

    It was then that from every country in Europe thousands of young men made up their minds that the destiny of their native country was at stake. They would volunteer their lives to fight communism and create a united Europe.

    In all, they would grow to be more than 600,000 non-German Europeans fighting on the Eastern Front. They would bring scores of divisions to the Waffen SS.

    The Waffen SS were ideological and military shock troops of Europe. The Germans, numbering 400,000, were actually in the minority.

    The one million-strong Waffen SS represented the first truly European army to ever exist.

    After the war each unit of this army was to provide their people with a political structure free of the petty nationalism of the past. All the SS fought the same struggle. All shared the same world view. All became comrades in arms.

    The most important political and military phenomenon of World War Two is also the least known: the phenomenon of the Waffen SS.

    Epic Story of the Waffen SS
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