Hitler was OK Until He Globalized

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/candace-owens-hitler-was-ok-until-he-tried-to-go-global

    And maybe he should have waited until 1943, like his generals were saying, and developed jets and the atom bomb. Things would worked out better for us all, right?

    Jesus God what is WRONG with these people? It was OK for Hitler to kill all the Jews in Germany? Just so long as he didn't "globalize"?

    Going by the picture this Owens woman is African American, so she would have been working in an Egyptian cotton field by now if Germany had won WWII. Maybe she thinks Hitler was populist? After all he said the Germans were just "Volks"

    Fracking god-cursed bloody Nazi NUTS the lot ot them
     
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    OK, based on her quotes in the article ( I didn't see the video), I'm unclear what exactly she said that was controversial.

    “When we say nationalism, the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. He was a national socialist.” she said.

    “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine,”

    It sounds like she's addressing the canard, Nationalism = Hitler.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He didn't initially try to kill them, that was just his "final solution" after he was losing the war.
     
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    Just your common,

    "I Hate da Jews", Black Person.


    They really do hate those who got killed with them for their Civil Rights!

    Moi :oldman:




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    I think the article makes some interesting points.
     
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    Actually there might be a lot more to this, than what you listed here.

    The world knew that Hitler's love for the concepts of Margaret Sanger, is what excited his wicked heart the most; Dead Negroid People.

    So his strategy was not necessarily preventing Jew's, globalization movement, but to prevent how their plan featured millions of Black humans in tow! As proven, by the fact that the main reason he launched The Holocaust was because of his demonic-anger toward the Jews bringing darkskin Blacks into Germany.
     
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    Hitler did some good things. To deny that displays ignorance. Similarly, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao did some good things. But on balance, their contribution to mankind was vastly outweighed by the evil they did. May the four of them burn in hell forever.

    Totalitarianism doesn't have a good track record. It's best to keep government as small as possible.
     
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    Unfortunately it's impossible to keep the government small when there's a national economic disaster or war on your hands.
    Germany had both.
     
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    When they talk that way, they mean as far as Germany goes, he was okay.

    Prior to wars, he was truly improving the economy of Germany. And his health care plan was the best in the world. and he paid vacations for the citizens of Germany.

    No leader in my opinion is good that commits to war.

    Actually Hitler did not kill all Jews living in Germany. And he gave the jews a BS con job story to get them onto trains for Poland.

    Americans are no hero to the Jews. FDR kept them away from America. Did not want them coming here.
     
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    The assassination attempts didn't begin until the midst of the war, when some of the higher ups thought he was plunging the country into a devastating war they thought he might not be able to win.
     
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    Precisely true. And ask ten thousand americans why the term final solution was used and they have no idea at all.

    We are taught history that favors just America. But when bad history is handed to us, you normally get it from Democrats.

    i post bad information about America as a republican but i do so based on facts.

    Such as Abraham Lincoln was one lousy president.

    First he charged into battle with no decent involvement of Congress.
    Second, he waged a land war blaming it all on a very minor fort in the harbor of Charleston., SC.

    If people today fired at Ft. Sumter, who would back Trump in invading VA?

    This is a great animated presentation of the attack of Ft. Sumter. Notice the Fort was almost completely intact and usable when Maj Anderson surrendered. The Federals during the 4 years of combat attacked it over and over and virtually reduced it to a pile of rubble without capturing it.
    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/maps/fort-sumter-animated-map
     
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    I read this years ago, pretty good.
     
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    I forget off hand how many attempts to kill Hitler there were but one of my favorites is presented in the movie called Valkyrie.
     
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    Hitler was never OK.

    He nationalized and killed everyone he did not like.
     
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    To the Germans he was like a hero.
     
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    He was to too many, yes.
     
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    To Ford, and MANY Americans, Hitler was A ok. They aimed to emulate Hitler's Germany and Mussolini's Italy.

    And just cuz you can make the trains run on time does not mean you can gas Jews.
     
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    There were many progressives admiring him at the time also.
     
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    Actually, the Jews are more noble in this case, considering Jews died directly because of Blacks during the Holocaust whereas that was not the case in Black Civil Rights Movement.
     
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    No Comprende
     
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    SIGH

    Date Location Attempted by Summary
    1932 Hotel Kaiserhof (Berlin) Unknown Hitler and several members of his staff fall ill after dining at the revered Kaiserhof hotel in Berlin. Poisoning is suspected, but no arrests are made. Hitler himself seems least affected by the alleged poisoning, possibly due to his vegetarian diet. [3]
    February 9,
    1932 Berlin Ludwig Assner Ludwig Assner, a German politician and member of the Bavarian State Parliament, sends a poisoned letter to Hitler from France. An acquaintance of Assner warns Hitler and the letter is intercepted. [4]
    1934 Berlin Beppo Römer Freikorps member Beppo Römer vows to assassinate Hitler as revenge for the Night of the Long Knives but is turned over to the Gestapobefore any concrete plan can be made.
    1934 Berlin Helmut Mylius Dr Helmut Mylius, head of the right wing Radical Middle Class Party (Radikale Mittelstandspartei), has 160 men infiltrate the SS and begin gathering information on Hitler's movement. The conspiracy is uncovered by the Gestapo and the conspirators are arrested. Myluis escapes arrest through the aid of influential friends, including Field Marshall Erich Von Manstein.[5]
    1935 Berlin Marwitz group Several German officers in the Foreign office pen a letter writing that "The oath of alligence against Hitler has lost it's meaning since he was ready to sacrifice Germany" and that "now was the time to act" in an attempt to instigate an army coup against the Fuhrer.[6]
    1935 Berlin Paul Josef Stuermer Dr Paul Joseph Stuermer leads a resistance group composed of several officers, university professors, businessmen and government workers. The group assists several assassination attempts including Beppo Römer's attempt. [7]
    December 20, 1936 Nuremberg Helmut Hirsch Helmut Hirsch, a German Jew and a member of the Strasserist Black Front, is tasked with planting two suitcases filled with explosives at the Nazi party headquarters in Nuremberg. The plot is revealed to the Gestapo by a double agent and Hirsch is executed by decapitation.
    1937 Berlin Josef Thomas On November 26 mental patient Josef Thomas is arrested by the Gestapo in Berlin after he confesses that he traveled from Elberfeld for the explicit purpose of shooting Hitler and air force commander Hermann Göring.[8]
    1937 Berlin Unknown man in SS uniform An unidentified man in SS uniform reportedly tries to kill Hitler during a rally at the Berlin SportPalast.[9]
    September 28, 1938 Berlin Hans Oster, Helmuth Groscurth A plan is formed by Generalmajor Hans Oster and other high-ranking conservatives in the Wehrmacht to overthrow Hitler in the case he declares war on Czechoslovakia. The plan involved the storming of the Reich Chancellery by forces loyal to the plot in order to take control of the government, who would either arrest or assassinate Hitler, and restore the exiled Wilhelm II as Emperor. The plan is abandoned after British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain concedes the Sudetenland to Hitler in the Munich Agreement, neutralizing the immediate risk of war. Many of the conspirators go on to take part in the 1944 20 July Plot
    Main article: Oster Conspiracy
    November 9, 1938 Munich Maurice Bavaud Swiss theology student Maurice Bavaud poses as a reporter and plans to shoot Hitler from the reviewing stand as he passed through the parade. His view of Hitler is blocked by the unwitting crowd and he is forced to abandon the plan. He then attempts to follow Hitler but fails. On his way back to Paris he is discovered by a train conductor and is turned over to the Gestapo. Maurice was executed by guillotine in the Berlin-Plötzensee prison on the morning of May 14, 1941.
    October 5, 1939 Warsaw Michał Karaszewicz-Tokarzewski, Service for Poland's Victory General Michał Karaszewicz-Tokarzewski and other members of the Polish Army attempt to detonate hidden explosives during Hitler's victory parade in Warsaw. 500 Kg of TNT are concealed in a ditch, ready to be detonated by Polish Sappers. However at the last moment the parade is diverted and the saboteurs miss their target. [10]
    November 8, 1939 Munich Johann Georg Elser German Carpenter Georg Elser places a time-bomb at the Bürgerbräukeller in Munich, where Hitler was due to give his annual speech in commemoration of the Beer Hall Putsch. Hitler leaves earlier than expected and the bomb detonates, killing eight and injuring sixty two others. Following the attempt, Elser was held as a prisoner for over five years until he was executed at the Dachau concentration camp less than a month before the surrender of Nazi Germany.
    1939 Berlin Erich Kordt German diplomat and resistance fighter Erich Kordt hatches an assassination plot along with officer Hasso von Etzdorf to plant explosives, but the plan is abandoned after the security restrictions following Georg Elser's attempt to kill Hitler make the acquirement and concealment of the necessary explosives too dangerous. [11]
    1941–1943 (several) Berlin Beppo Römer Beppo Römer plots once again to assassinate Hitler along with several co-conspirators of the resistance group Solf Circle. He obtains funds from co-conspirator Nikolaus von Halem and keeps tabs on the Fuhrer's movements through a contact at the Berlin City Commandment. However, before an opportunity could present itself the plot is unraveled by the Gestapo. Römer is sentenced to death on 16 June 1944 and executed on 25 September of that year at Brandenburg-Görden Prison in Brandenburg an der Havel. [12]
     
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    Uhhhhhh yeahNO.

     
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    I realize that many have said that had Hitler died in 1937 he might have been called the Greatest German. I have gone on record as being of the opinion he was the greatest political genius that has ever lived. He was also the most purely evil man that ever polluted history.

    This idiot woman was not saying that. Her argument is that anything you do for your country is good and that Hitler should be excused for doing anything, no matter how evil, as long as he did it for (and to) Germany alone. He was, just like Trump claims to be, a "Nationalist" and she is trying to answer and defend accusations that Trump is Hitleresque.

    This is so obvious to me that anybody trying to say she is saying something else is being, IMO, purposely obtuse.
     
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