Holes shaped like planes?

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  1. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    FEMA has identified the plane parts AS COMING from those planes. In order for your claim to have any validity, you need to produce someone who saw someone off-loading plane parts on the streets of NYC....and then you would have to explain how parts of the fuselage got to the roof top...and then how they placed a jet engine on the street...how they placed landing gear on the street.

    Do you not see how absurd your claim is??? What we all saw IS THE NULL HYPOTHESIS. YOU carry the burden of proof.
     
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    The MSM and our "leaders" told us that 19 suicidal Arabs hijacked airliners ..... and that was the first unsupported assertion, THEY
    carry the burden of proof and they have yet to prove anything.
    To what has so far been produced as proof that there were airliners
    hijacked and crashed into the WTC towers, all I can say is
    INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except for all the evidence, ATC, eye witnesses, calls from the planes, you might have something.
     
  4. genericBob

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    Ya, right, the {alleged} phone calls are still being
    brought up as alleged proof of anything?

    The evidence that puts the last nail in,
    is the PHYSICAL evidence, and that would be
    the bits of the aircraft, and exactly how was all
    that evidence handled? oh yea, it was all packaged up
    and shipped back to the airlines, after all the aircraft was their property. RIGHT, ...... sure, you betcha!
     
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    After being thoroughly investigated by FEMA, the FBI and the insurance companies as well.
     
  6. genericBob

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    and if indeed some sort of investigation was done, where is the INFORMATION? what, all of it TOP SECRET? or?
     
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    Well, I guess right in front of you is not enough. What do you need, a friendly reach around?
     
  8. Hannibal

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    Nope, not at all. Read the links provided to you.
     
  9. genericBob

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    What constitutes "right in front"? The links that have been posted so far have been totally useless for providing proof that there ever was any airliner crashed at any of the 4 sites. specifically what do you have that supports the allegation that 4 airliners were hijacked that day?
     
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    Yeah, I know, ATC, eye witnesses, airliner parts are not enough for you. >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<
     
  11. Hannibal

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    You have to read them, bob. You've been handed the evidence and you seem to be closing your eyes. Why would you do that?
     
  12. genericBob

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    You have provided links to bits like "NTSB report, "Flight Path Study- "
    Where in this "flight path study" would one expect to find anything relating to the recovery & inventory of airliner bits? would they not create a separate report labeled physical evidence ..... ( or something? )
    You prove me wrong by producing the evidence that points to the actual inventory & ID of physical evidence about the 4 alleged airliners that were used as weapons ( or that B total fantasy ..... ) what?

    If there really isn't any such evidence, then the position
    of the people who support the hijacked airliners is also
    a matter of argument from incredulity.
     
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    Look at the entirety of the evidence, bob. It's all been linked for you.
     
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    Landing gear from the roof of the Federal Building. Click on images for sources:
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    Fuselage from FEMA 403 found on the roof of WTC5:
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    A couple I forgot:
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    I noticed you avoided answering this question a couple of times....So, if the planes didnt make those impact marks, what did?

    Answer now, please.
     
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    Assertions backed by calculations and data. You make assertions based on your opinion. You back them up with NOTHING.
     
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    Unsupported assertion? Are you dishonest or ignorant?

    The hijackers were video-taped going through airport security, stewardesses and passengers spoke if Arab hijackers with box cutters and bombs, their IDs were found....

    Your claim is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and only goes to highlight your dishonesty.
     
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    pictures of alleged aircraft bits doesn't constitute
    an accounting for the aircraft, does anyone know
    how much by weight or numbers or volume of bits
    there were to account for "FLT11" "FLT175" "FLT77" or "FLT93"?
     
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    Can you link other examples of cataloged aircraft parts involved in a crash that are available to the public?
     
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    For one, Pan Am 104 was reconstructed in a hanger, and pix of that reconstruction were published in the media, however in the case of this particular high profile crash ( or rather 4 of them ) we see only pix of wreckage, but absolutely NO information of any reconstruct effort or for that matter, any measure of exactly how much of any one of the aircraft could be accounted for. This is very sloppy work at best and to me smells of a cover-up.
     
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    Kindly link to the publicly cataloged aircraft parts recovered from PanAM 104. Thank you,
     
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    Why do they reconstruct the planes genericBob?

    Also, according to you, photos can be faked, so why trust them? You wanted a cataloged inventory of the debris tying said debris to the planes in some form. Please provide links of the inventory available to the public from other crashes. If you cannot provide them, just say so.
     
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