Home grown Jihad in the U.S.

This statement is simply not based in, logic, when weighed against the truth the existence the reality of Quran scriptures which non-violent, loving, Muslims use to promote Allah as a peaceful force.

It has everything to do with it ---since the evil-concepts are the same--- in terms of how both concepts manipulate religious history in order to use that manipulation for perfecting Evil here in real time.

 

Actually, those very words are being misinterpreted by jihadists within nearly every act of violence in the USA ---even when giving them the benefit of 'doubt'.

ISLAM at no time teaches Muslims to kill innocent people, especially your fellow peaceful Muslims, yet if this terrorist in the OP had ran thru that Stonebriar Centre Mall in Frisco shooting and shot up some of his fellow Muslims in the mall shopping or eating; that is totally against Islam teachings. He was supposed to make sure he's preserving the life of 'Believers' no doubt indeed.

 

Only if the perps begin their assault with "Jesus is Great".

 

Then why do the so called "peaceful" Muslims not condemn every terrorist act committed by a Muslim, their silence alone speaks for their support of such terrorism.

Bottom line while every Muslim might not be a terrorist in waiting, too many Muslims are terrorist's in waiting.

History matters not when it is by large Muslims committing the majority of terrorism world wide, they are not a very peaceful bunch at all.

 

Probably because you are Christian yourself with the required prejudices.

Likely you've forgotten the statements and antics of USA General William Odom who was all fired up back in the Bush administration, urging his Christian Soldiers to go on and avenge what happened on 911.

Religious zealots of most stripes love war. Remember the Crusades? Remember Dubya invoking the crusades? He had to walk that one back a bit.

 

It is a fringe of the US Christian population that wants religious law & theocracy, while it is the mainstream of most Islamic societies.

We need to replicate this in the Islamic world. I don't support regime change, it's up to them to reform themselves.

 

So your claim is that Muhammad at no time said to kill Jews and Christians, yes or no?

You also claim that Islam does not prescribe death for blasphemy, correct? So when one muslim sect kills another muslim sect, the instruction is being misinterpreted, correct?

I think what you're ignoring is how that religion defines "innocent".

 

Then why are they blowing up and killing other Muslims such as Shias versus the Sunni's?

 

I don't know why Progressives are so intent on labeling Islam "the religion of Peace", and Christianity as totalitarian and evil.

Some of the Progressive posters here are as borderline insane as the Islamists.

 

Unfortunately the definition of "Peace" in the Quran is a very different one than the generally assumed meaning of the word in Western culture.

In the muslim religion "peace" comes about after you submit to Islam.
The Quran says a lot of nice sounding things in some places, but then turns around and gets into detail saying things that are not really consistent with what you thought the message was of those nice sounding things.

It's not just a coincidence that the Quran is so often "misconstrued" (as you'd call it).

 

Good luck getting that to happen, their heads are stuck back in the 1700's.

 

Waiting for libs to come in here and bring up the crusades
A quite pathetic defense by the way

 

But very predictable, bring up something current they don't like and they will remind everyone someone else did the same thing a thousand years ago, so what's happening today is no big deal.

It's almost as dumb as gays and women's rights groups supporting Muslims.

 

Everyone seems to want terrorism to end. A wise man once said - if you want terrorism to end - stop participating in it.

The ratio those killed by State Sponsored Terror - as opposed to those killed by single acts of terror - has been reported as 100,000 to 1.

Not sure where this stat came from - and it seems a bit high to me but, it is definitely higher than 1000 to 1.

If one runs around with a bat swatting the nests of hornets - only an idiot is surprised when one gets stung once in awhile.

 

I am not a lib - and nor did I make that argument - see post 39 for something more modern.

That said - how is bringing up the crusades - or inquisition - or conquest of North America - not relevant to a conversation about Christians killing people vs Muslims killing people ?

 

No, we are intent on labeling demons as demons, especially when they hide their evil behind Islam or Christianity.

 

No one is swatting the Muslim nest, however Muslims believe if one does not conform to their rules, one should be killed.

As such they are self swatting and then go forth to look for innocent victims to sting.

 

Not all Muslims are Islamist's - learn the difference. That said - a significant majority are.

This has nothing to do with swatting hornets nest however. The claim the the US/Nato have not been going around swatting hornets nests ( attacking Muslim nations and stirring up trouble) .. is delusional falsehood on steroids.

How many examples would you like ?

 

Which is way all real Muslims are Islamist's

You brought up the false claim not I.

 

1) this is like saying all "real Christians" are Westboro Baptists - it is fallacious generalization of nasty traits of some onto all.

2) Your claim is patent falsehood - akin to denial that water is wet. Since you failed respond to my question - how many examples would you like ? I will toss out a few examples.

Siding with Saddam Hussain in its war of aggression against Iran is one example - a war in which we were supporting his use of Chemical weapons against Iran and his own people - the Kurds.

Getting involved in the war in Syria - giving tens of thousands of tons of sophisticated military technology to Al Qaeda and other Islamist groups of the same ilk - groups which eventually coalesced into the modern incarnation of ISIS - done in conjunction with Saudi Arabia, Turkey and others nation states.

Fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda in Yemen - again with Saudi Arabia (the true #1 state sponsor of Terror)

There are more examples however - only someone who has been living in a cave is not aware of the US wars in the ME .. wars against nations that had not attacked us.

 

Actually it is the realization that the radical traits of true Islamists are still stuck back in the 1700's.

My claim is based on the current behavior of today's Islamists.

All diversion's by yourself to get the spotlight off Muslim Islamists who are known to commit terrorist acts on a regular basis in the name of Isalm.

 

I agree that true Islamist's are stuck back in the 1700's. This has nothing to do with anything I said though.

Nor does your claim that the US has not been meddling in the affairs of, and attacking Muslim nations - have anything to do with your claim about the current behavior of Islamist's

What diversion... I claimed that the US has been meddling in the affairs of Islamist's - which is akin to swatting a hornets nest with a bat. You said that claim was false. Then I proved that this claim was true.

I have never disputed that fact that Islamist's commit terrorist acts. Do you not think that arming these terrorists - with tens of thousands of tons of sophisticated military equipment - only exacerbates the problem ?

 

Another domestic attack from the religion of peace.


WASHINGTON — A Maryland man inspired by the Islamic State group plotted to ram a stolen U-Haul truck into as many pedestrians as possible at a popular convention and tourist destination just outside the nation’s capital, federal prosecutors said Monday….

“I was just going to keep driving and driving and driving. I wasn’t going to stop,” the document quotes Henry as telling law enforcement authorities who questioned him. He said he wanted to create “panic and chaos” similar to a deadly truck attack that killed scores of people in Nice, France in 2016, prosecutors say….

The government’s six-page detention motion describes Henry as harboring hatred for “disbelievers” and looking to emulate Islamic State militants he saw on beheading videos and fighting overseas.

On his phone, which prosecutors say he discarded on a highway in an apparent attempt to conceal evidence, authorities found images of the ISIS flag, armed ISIS fighters and the man who carried out the massacre in an Orlando, Florida, nightclub three years ago.

The document alleges that Henry, a computer engineer, walked off his job in the middle of the day on March 26 and stole a U-Haul van from the parking garage of a mall in Virginia after determining that his four-door sedan “would not cause the catastrophic damage that he desired.”

He first considered an attack at Dulles International Airport, trying unsuccessfully over two hours to breach the security perimeter by slipping in through a checkpoint or accessing a restricted area, prosecutors said.

From there, he headed to National Harbor – a waterfront complex of restaurants, retail and hotels in Maryland.

“But so early in the morning on a weekday,” prosecutors wrote, “the defendant did not find the sizable crowd upon which he desired to inflict his radical conduct.”…

Acquaintances of Henry expressed surprise at the allegations.

Osman Alaalla, 61, came to pray Monday evening at a 5 p.m. service at the Islamic Society of Germantown. He said Henry typically led that service. Alaalla described Henry as a quiet, nice man but said he didn’t know anything about his personal life. He said he would come to pray and leave.

“He’s very peaceful,” he said.

 

It's called "collateral damage". Plus, the Muslims in the U.S. are not that many. Yet.

 

Well evil muslims have sworn to kill us haven't they? Don't you think we should fight back and kill them before they do kill us? Am I really needing to ask that question?