Homelessness in Hawaii

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A second job may not be possible in many cases if one already has a first job. Many businesses now are demanding unpredictable hours from their employees. They want the employee on call when they need him, but still only give him a limited number of hours a week. That's why many workers in the country are trapped working only 30 hours a week.

    Some of these homeless have physical health or mental issues and working longer may be difficult for them. Especially since a lot of these jobs require one to be standing on their feet continuously for long periods of time. I actually encountered a homeless person who told me he wasn't working in Walmart or McDonald's because he wasn't able to stand that long, his back wasn't good, and he couldn't stand longer than 2 hours before needing to sit down.
     
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    A job, don't leave home without one.
     
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    Many is not all.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think we're debating to what extent it is choice and to what extent it is caused by circumstance.
    Surely we can agree both come into play.

    We can also agree the likelihood of people becoming homeless is higher in areas where housing is less affordable. (especially when it changes from affordable to unaffordable in that area)
     
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    A week contains 168 hours, allowing 8 hours per day for rest leaves 112 hours be put to use in acquiring ones needs/wants. If working 30 hours a week, another 82 hours remain available which would benefit both society and the individual more if they were spent improving ones living conditions rather than complaining, blaming others as if it is they who are responsible for the problems you have.


    If Walmart and McDonalds are the ONLY employers in that area, he needs to move to another location. Or is he waiting for government to force some business to open that provides jobs where you are seated while working?
     
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    The natives had their cost of living artificially raised. What yo7nthink they should be doing is meaningless. It’s not up to you.
     
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    Sometimes the solution to our problems simply require putting our feet to use.
    When we see thousands of people traveling great distances attempting to enter our borders illegally hoping to improve their lives, I'm dismayed by the fact that a great many of American citizens will remain in place hoping, expecting, and demanding government make the improvements they want when they can legally travel to where opportunities may be greater than where they are.
     
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    Nor you. Guessing youve never been to Hawaii.
     
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    never said it was up to me. I'm pointing out the artificial rise in cost of living was thrust upon them. It isn't their fault.
     
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    Jobs and infrastructure are the only things thrust upon them. Your sympathy is born of ignorance.
     
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    Nope. Artificial increase of cost of living was thrust upon them.

    It's just reality. You don't have to accept it. But your rejection of reality doesn't change it.
     
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    Never said they were...
     
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    Is your signature a list of your credentials?
     
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    Yes, in my statement that I have at least 20 people who would take me in, the key word is temporarily. They would not keep me in their home for months and months, nor would I be offered shelter if I continually had crisis after crisis and came asking. Example, my brother-in-law, when he is out of prison for a bit and supposedly trying to make good, often has nowhere to stay, although my husband's family is fairly large. The reason is that every member of the immediate family has welcomed him at one time or another and he has stolen from all of us. Charity runs out eventually.
     
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    Reality is a mystery to you since you've obviously never been to the islands. But of course, a leftie whining about rich folks is nothing new. :rant:
     
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    again, you are free to reject reality, but that doesn't change it.
     
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    The past year has tested the 29-year-old single mother in ways she couldn't imagine. Despite working full-time as a caregiver, she and her three children were evicted from their Mililani apartment last January when she couldn't make rent. From there, they bounced between the street and friend's couches before taking refuge at local churches through the group Family Promise.

    Now, Ching and her children will be one of the first 30 families to move into Kahauiki Village, the affordable plantation-style development that's been built on an old paintball field across from the Nimitz Viaduct.
    It was paid for through a public-private partnership. Each house will belong to someone who was previously homeless and is just getting back on their feet.

    Rent for a two bedroom unit, including utilities, is $900 per month – about half what Ching paid at her old apartment.

    "This is what I need. Especially being a single mom and struggling. It's hard," said Ching.

    www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37204384/as-move-in-day-approaches-homeless-families-get-first-glimpse-of-new-homes
     
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    a lot of the natives appear entitled and lazy because they feel the white man stole their land, and the poor white mainland immigrants don't want to get educations and compete in the market to afford the higher cost of living.

    President Trump will fix this by bringing back good paying jobs for the uneducated and lazy with tariffs and a huge wall, so poor Americans don't have to go to school and can work anywhere for good pay.

    those homeless communities look like segregation camps and are not a good solution.
     
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    You sound very heartless oftentimes, I wonder reading your comments.

    Well, I hope it never happens, perhaps a reversal of fortunes and mayhap you find yourself in that position, you will likely sing a different tune.
     
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    That was not a threat.

    It was more like what happens to people in real life, you can't say impossible, as enough Millionaires have suddenly for whatever reason, become quite indigent and found themselves with nowhere to live.
     
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    Many jobs are below COL, and are below the poverty level, and are eligible for Public assistance,
    also called "Welfare" / supplemental food benefits.
     
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    Have I claimed to be a millionaire? I can state quite confidently that the only way I could become indigent or homeless would have to be the result of force, hence an unlawful threat carried out.
    Do you worry such could happen to you?
     
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    high costs of living are thrust on ALL of us, who live in expensive areas. if we can't afford it, we move. it's not rocket science. the only certainty is change. roll with it, or perish.

    and 'having no money' is a choice people make, so why should that be factored into anything? are they disabled? over 70? if not, then it's a lifestyle choice made.
     
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    Yes, it is. I can live in a rich western nation on about $100 a week. All it takes is the determination to do so. Anyone not prepared to do what is required to live so cheaply, isn't serious about it, and is therefore choosing poverty instead. They cannot, therefore, complain.
     
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    they are held on site by force, by loud shirt wearing visitors?
     

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