Homosexuality absent religion?

I pretty much agree. However, there are homosexual leftist activists.

 

True, there are activists in every cause. They aren't excused. But without the brute strength of the mainstream media they'd be nothing.

This exemplifies something that I think we should all be aware of. Activism needs a mortality. Meaning when goals are accomplished it needs to die. But that doesn't seem to be how it works. These movements seem to push and push and push until they are essentially cultural Marxism.

 

If some christians didn't feel they are above the law, they wouldn't get in trouble. Doesn't the bible say to give unto Ceasar what is cearars? I know that meant money, but really it can mean the laws of the land.

I bet those honor killers were punished also. Just like the christian law breakers. But you would seem to think they can honor kill and not be punished by our laws.
What is your opinion? Should they be able to kill gays or have honor killings? It is their religious right to do so.

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Correct. Thanks.
But there is question as to if he did it because of religion.

 

Actually, you're making less sense the more you talk. I'm going to have to ignore you.

 

Just like there are christian activists. Ever hear of WBC?

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You have to ignore, because you can't defend your mistaken right you think you have to break laws.
Go for it. It is what people do who can't defend their position.

I notice you didn't answer what your position is on honor killings in the name of religion.

 

No there isn't. It doesn't really make a difference. He is muslim and he did kill 49 people. It makes the crime no more heinous based on what the clown was thinking.

 

Not sure what you're confusing me with.
I never said it wasn't heinous. I missed this one, that is all. For there aren't a lot of muslims in the USA killing gay people. I guess we have 1 so far. No matter his motive.

My main point being, religious freedoms doesn't extend to whatever the relgious think they have for freedoms. They must still follow the laws of the land.
Killing, discriminating, or whatever other freedoms a religious person may want to throw out there. Laws trump.

 

I'm not coinfused.

We had one that made global news.

Now I think you are the one who is confused. Nobody is saying such laws don't exist, this is a discussing on whether or not they should.

 

Anyone seen my last post?

 

The Bible clearly states that god intended men and women to be togther and not men/men or women/women. It states that homosexuality is a sin. However it does not say that is a sin far greater than other sin. it does not call for homosexuals to be persecuted, disrespected or abused. Anyone that sees this in the bible is full of sh1t. The general underlying message of the bible is that we are all sinners and we should all do our best to express compassion and love toward one another. This is easier said than done in our day to day lives.


The thing that pisses me off is that often times it is those that preach tolerance who are themselves the most intolerant aka the social justice left. one example; the gay couple that sued the Christian baker in Denver. this has actually happened several times. Weddings are supposed t be about showing the world your love for one another; not about being used to score political points. So when we have these angry gay people who go to little mom and pop bakeries and then sue them when they could easily accept the fact that someone has a different worldview than them and find another bakery that would be happy to bake their cake, it's wrong. the bakeries did not do anything to these people, they weren't publicly saying anything about gay marriage. they simply said it's against our belief system to do such a thing. they caused the gay couples no real harm and never sought to. but instead of acknowledging that people are entitled to their beliefes the gay couples sough tot ruin their lives. That's called totalitarianism folks.....do what I say...believe what i want you to believe or I'll ruin you.

 

Excellent.

 

He also intended they stay together until death do them part. Unless one becomes infidelity or a non believer. Then they can divorce and remarry.
If they divorce and remarry for any other reason, they now become adulterers.
Yet, not much of a peep about this sin from christians. Probably because most of the are adulterers themselves.

 

Yes there are a lot of things Christians are commanded to do in the bible that most of us fail to do. I'm not going to argue with you there. My point was that the left in this country is always preaching about tolerance but they do not often tolerate those that believe differently than they do.

 

Yet not all homersexuals are leftist...

 

Everything is political for the left. Notice both Islam and Christianity condemn homosexuality, yet most leftists will defend muslims over Christians, ignoring the fact. Leftists are just as guilty of "cherry picking" as they accuse Conservative Christians of. That's because it's politically correct for them to defend muslims. Democrats need their votes. Remember, it's always political for the left, never about what's right or patriotic.

 

And my point is there are those that want to tell others how to live, that are indeed living in much the same way as those they complain about. Some on the right christians think they are holier than thou always preaching about sinning, while being some of the biggest sinners out there.
You understand, the left is millions of people. And they all don't believe and act the same. Just like christians. I'm not blaming all christians, in fact very few. For not all christians are going around screaming about gays.
So don't go say 'the left'. For all of the left isn't doing it or saying it.

 

Prime example of some of the ignorance of christians on display.
The left does not defend Muslims for hating or killing gays. In fact the muslims that hate or kill gays are very few. What most on the left say is, don't throw all muslims into the same basket, just like don't throw all christians or all the left into the same basket.