You didn't reply, you just spouted the word "agenda" and recognition of gay marriage was only one small part (probably the least important) of what I posted. You're free to ignore my post but don't lie about it. Seriously? I put the word "directly" in bold to save us both this time. Discrimination is a factor. It is not to blame for HIV/AIDS. Behaviour of (many) gay men is a factor. Gay men are not to blame for HIV/AIDS. So your statement was wrong. There are those who want to stop people being gay (rather suddenly!). What the families might say doesn't really matter (victim families are often reactionary for understandable reasons). What judges and juries say is what gets recorded in the crime statistics. Anyway, it's not as if not being actually murdered on the street would be the end of the problem. As I said, if you keep talking about gay men being the problem, you're going to keep getting accused of homophobia, however unfair that might be. If you talk about safe sex you will face much less of a problem. If you actually listen to and address other people's viewpoints rather than just shouting "agenda" at them, it could be even better. It's all about behaviour. (A side point I know but AIDS isn't a plural. The S stands for syndrome and should be capitalised too)
There is much MORE prejudice in Africa than the US against gays, and yet in the US, HIV rates for gay men are 44 times higher than the average rate for the general male population, compared to just 10 times higher in Africa. Correlation isn't causation but the statistics would seem to evidence that precisely the opposite is the case. Less prejudice is correlated with higher rates of infection. The more accepted the more prevalent it becomes and higher rates of HIV infection.
africans not using condoms, or trying to screw the aids out of them into young boys shows ignorance..... you're surprised there is such strong hatred of all things gay in places like that? all your swerving, ducking and avoiding still doesn't address the need that gay men in America, need to practice safer sex. And since sex ed is equally presented to everyone, you can't blame homophobia for the gay man's failure to wrap his willie or stick it in the most disease ridden part of another male's body
You didnt read my post right. Im not blaming the homophobia. I was showing that it is not homophobia that leads to higher rates of infection.
Dear all, I am a straight girl from Hong kong. So glad to see this post here. "a very small amount of gay people contribute to more than a half of HIV infection", is always one of the subject to stir up the fire in the forums of Hong Kong, and it seems like we have similar thought towards this issue. I wonder if other countries have such staggering fact like HK, or just HK gay people are especially irresponsible, as they are living in a society even my grandparents know about condom.
Some homophobes in Hong Kong even said the figures of HIV infection going up since the society becomes open minded to MSM. I hate this statement but it may has a point somehow as when gay sex was still illegal in HK, it was much more hard to have sex partner for a gay man than today. Not like today, to get casual sex for them is super easy, maybe easier than hetero, while they still suffering from several level of Discrimination in HK I hate some straight men in HK tease the gay people in order to feel superior. I know gay or les is not a choice and even it is, that's no way to blame your personal choice of life, as long as it's no harm to the others. I wanna be friendly to gay people but some of their "lifestyle" really scare me and threaten the majority.
You have just as much proof that gay is not a choice, as I do that gay is a choice..... Or do you have a link to some new study or finding that shows there is a gay gene? - - - Updated - - - You have just as much proof that gay is not a choice, as I do that gay is a choice..... Or do you have a link to some new study or finding that shows there is a gay gene?
=_="…in fact I m not sure…! I go to the gay forum and see the guy's Talking…some said they knew they interested in male bodies since their childhood, few of them said they "turned" gay after age 20 or 25, then never turn back! I think both are possible. However I think everyone should take the responsibility to have protected sex no matter gay or not. I don't know other countries but in HK, seems so difficult for them to have long relationship and maybe too hard for them to have single sex partner. Quite lot of them go to gay sauna to settle their needs. Imagine in an area you even can't see people face clearly and many naked bodies walking around....it's difficult to keep alert wearing condom. Just donno why the gay rights groups keep ignoring the fact, the true reason for the society fearing gay.
this is a HUGE reason people still worry. When gays are so reckless with such things.... is it any wonder they are met with less than open arms.
Of course.....gays were met with less than open arms before the AIDs epidemic was even known. AIDs provides a handy cover to blame gays. I seriously believe that there are people who would oppose curing AIDs because they believe that the disease is an effective propaganda tool against homosexuals.
so what you would like to do is convert those homosexuals with hiv to heterosexuals.... ? marriage causes more people to be monogamous... thus helps reduce the spread of HIV... .
no, we would like to be able to discuss the reasons this % is so high without gay supporters trying to deflect and accuse of homophobia for trying to address this real issue.
when you look at the percentages that 3% of the population accounts for 53% of new AIDs cases.... this isn't an irrational fear we are dealing with. I don't believe that "God created AIDs to punish gays" or anything.... but they are definately spreading it at an alarming rate? What can be done to stop this. Why won't gays practice safer sex I think you want AIDs to continue so you have that convenient blame-game issue for whenever something in life doesn't go your way. You know how you stop that "propaganda" tool? quit having 3% of the total population account for 53% of the AIDs
About 50% of new HIV cases are from male to male sexual relations, this is globally. It is not just in Hong Kong, Russia is seeing an increase in HIV rates also.
You don't need to be married in order to be monogamous. What is stopping gays from living together similarly to a married couple? nothing. Gay marriage is strictly a money grab, they want the benefits a legally recongnized marriage entails, everything from health insurance to social security...it is strictly about monetary benefits. Anyone can see through the facade of gay marriage as a social issue, it is a financial issue.
Hmmm when my wife and I got married, we weren't thinking about 'monetary benefits'. Frankly at the time, I think we were slightly loosing out- because of how income taxes worked at the time- and maybe now- our two incomes filed as married actually cost us more taxes. We both had insurance through our own employers. So why would you assume that for homosexuals it is different? Or lets put it this way Do you think heterosexuals marry for money or for love?
Unfortunately for the same reason that heterosexuals are not practicing safer sex. Condom use and attitudes among heterosexual college students. Myers T1, Clement C. Author information Abstract INTRODUCTION: This paper analyzes differences between heterosexual male and female college students' behaviour, attitudes and knowledge about condom use. METHOD: A convenience sample of 707 students were recruited at sexual health displays to complete an anonymous questionnaire. RESULTS: Based on reported sexual partners in the previous year, 486 students (51.2% male and 48.8% female) were classified as heterosexual. No significant differences were found between the sexes in reported risk behaviour. Females reported more appropriate condom use techniques than males, and more positive attitudes toward condoms. Males rated sexual enjoyment to be more important. A greater proportion of males than females gave reasons for not using condoms. CONCLUSION: Differences between male and female attitudes and behaviour are important to address in AIDS prevention. Along with an emphasis on the improvement of condom use techniques, it is critical to focus on gender issues of assertiveness, power and trust. Men in general don't like using condoms. Women are more careful. With 2 men, you have twice as many men saying 'heck we don't need condoms'! It is a problem- and it does need to be addressed. But I think it is no coincidence that those who generally oppose all things homosexuals also are very focused on AIDs and homosexuals men.
because AIDs is not a safe disease, and gay's carelessness, can lead to straights also getting it. I think education is key to correcting this behavior in all men..... but straight white men don't seem to be having as much problem with it as straight black men, who don't have as much a problem as gay men..... but I've seen studies that suggest gay aids is to be blamed on homophobia.... which is rediculous
same thing that is stopping heterosexuals... is a fact more heterosexuals are monogamous when married, same applies to homosexuals
if a homosexual with aids converts to a heterosexual, your right.. you would have a better chance of getting what he has, so ask yourself, why do you want homosexuals to become heterosexuals if that is true? ...
Think this through though. Gay men are at more risk when they have unprotected sex. Heterosexual men are at risk when they have unprotected sex. In both cases, there is a risk of contracting AID's, but the risk is lower for heterosexual men. But both heterosexual men and homosexual men are acting the same in having unprotected sex. Heterosexual men aren't acting more responsibly- its just that heterosexual men are less likely be having sex with an infected person. Do you think its ridiculous because you are uncomfortable with the findings- or have you read the reports to determine whether they are relevant?
Yes, women are more insist to protected sex than men, and education is also important. For homosexuals, and people who support them, I sincerely hope they know one thing, that the world is always interactive, when a problem is made, it won't just one side to take all the faults. If you want the majority listen to your voice, you have to listen to their voice also, rather than just keeping read out your agender, it won't work, it won't help anything. Some may say it is gay male who have high risk to get Aids, this is none of the stright people business. If so, shouldn't it be the most urgent thing for gay male to concern? Yet people see the gay rights groups put very little effort to tackle this……-_-"
