Hong Kong! Remember Tiananmen Square!

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  1. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Declaration of Independence provides the moral foundation for the violent overthrow of a government, China matches those criteria. The mistake the citizens of Hong Kong are making is counting on assistance from the West. It will not happen. Trump hasn't met a dictator whose ass he won't kiss.

    To those who love their liberty, get out of Hong Kong now. Remember Tiananmen Square. Did Bush the Elder send help or did he turn his back? History knows the answer.
     
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    there is NO Declaration of Independence in HK, remember hk was leased under UK after opium war, when leased expired you give it back, you dont keep it.
     
  3. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not my decision, and an extremely immoral one by UK.
     
  4. Mac-7

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    I will see violence on both sides but who is tesponsible?

    China likes nothing better than to roll in the red army abd crush the freedom movement

    That makes them capable of any number of dirty tricks including planting fake protesters to initiate the violence
     
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  5. Moi621

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    Hong Kong is China.
    Get used to it.

    Consider supporting CalExit.
    The Independent Republic of California.
    I will support that with you. As a Californian.


    But, Hong Kong is a Riot how financed by what outside sources
    organizing crowds into riots.
    When "they" block Moi's Freeway,
    that is a State of Riot and must be treated as such.
    Not some benign, civil crime if even booked.
    "Leave or face bullets"

    Moi supports with due notice,
    Military Action.
    Whether Hong Kong or Ferguson, Missouri.


    Moi :oldman:


    No Exceptionalism!
     
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  6. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See, Hong Kong, the West does not have the moral strength to defend your right to liberty. Get out. You will be murdered.
     
  7. Robert E Allen

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    If China commits the atrocities that they are preparing for then we should sever all ties to China and terminate all trade with them.
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    then we should do it with saudi and many other saudi like country 1st. beside i'm more concern about the gun violence/domestic terrorists here. 2 mass shooting over the weekend, TX/OH. at least in HK no one die yet.
     
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  9. Robert E Allen

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    Then raise your kids right.
     
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    i'm sure alot ppl raise their kids right. non of the guy show tendency to shoot anyone before, if they do theyll be arrested right away or failed background check at purchase.
     
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  11. Robert E Allen

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    Almost no one gets arrested for failing a background check. That's part of the problem.

    The jerk down in Florida was a known threat, known to local law enforcement and the FBI.
     
  12. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, until you brought up the shootings; no individual has the ability to do harm to humans as a Government does. Case in point, Tinainenman Square, Pol Pot's Killing Fields, the Taltelolco Massacre, Maduro's Venezuela today.

    It's not the kooks we need to fear, it's the kooks who have political power, say like Maduro, Kim, and a few more, who
    are our greatest danger.
     
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    Interestingly they are waving the American Flag.

    Protest cripples airport as Beijing raises stakes with ‘terrorism’ warning.

    That kind of language makes it sound like Beijing is prepping the media battlespace for a violent crackdown.

    The world is about to get a crash course in socialism, who the Chinese really are, what the would do with more power, and what it would be like for us without the US Constitution.
     
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    I hate the thought of just watching it happen, but then again, what can we actually do about it?
     
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    Agree. I think the Chinese govt. is going to come down hard soon, just like they did on Tienanmen Square. The Global Times has been shifting how they cover the events from 'disloyal workers' to 'rioters' to 'thugs' and now they're claiming they are terrorists. This latest uptick in the rhetoric coincides with what is being described as the government ramping up for a military action.

    As with the events of 1989, protesters are claiming that the government is infiltrating the protesters with "radicals" who aren't local or who aren't taking part in the peaceful stuff. Will it be a repeat?
     
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    There isn't really a communist party other than a sham organization to keep the workers from rising up against the Chinese capitalist elite.
     
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    Well, that seems to go to extremes.
     
  18. Pycckia

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    The tanks are lining up in Shenzhen.
     
  19. Pro_Line_FL

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    What do you think US should so?

    The trade war with China is hitting Hong Kong hard, so its not like we have some kind of love affair with them. Why should we suddenly care?

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...ina-trade-war-hits-hong-kong-hard-imports-and

    US-China trade war hits Hong Kong hard, with imports and exports continuing to slide in April
    • Exports fell for the sixth month in a row, down 2.6 per cent year on year, while imports fared even worse, down 5.5 per cent on last April
    • More trouble is expected in the coming months as the headwinds of the trade war continue to buffet the city’s economy
     
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  20. modernpaladin

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    Send them crates of battle rifles and ammo.

    Their freedom is their business. We can't keep them free, but we could help them keep themselves free.
     
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    Probably going to need more than combat rifles against a modern military if you want to violently revolt against a government. Its not like you can stop a tank or AV with rifles and cavalry because just about any modern country can field them endlessly.
     
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  22. Moi621

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    Duh - Uh

    :flagus: cannot afford that!

    No longer the stand alone economic giant able to hurt anyone.
    What @Robert E Allen proposes would hurt us more.
    What of the soy bean farmers? ;)
     
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    We need to get America back to where we can stand alone.
     
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    *sigh*

    Since I don't feel like trying to explain assymetrical warfare tactics to ppl on the internet again... ur right. Tanks are invincible. Theres no way to beat drones. No civilian force has ever stymied a modern military. Resistance is futile. Worship government.

    :hiding:
     
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    Instead of Tiananmen squared can we have it cubed?
     

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