Hooray I can by 22 caliber ammo again

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Good article. Here's more info on why 22 production couldn't be ramped up to meet demand like other calibers.

    "Expanding rimfire production, not so much. A rimfire ammunition plant requires a priming area that is something that has not been newly fabricated in the United States probably for 40 years. Of course, the big American ammunition makers have updated theirs, but they have not added any brand-new facilities at new locations (Winchester did move its rimfire plant from Illinois to Mississippi). It is the priming operation of rimfire ammunition manufacture that takes the large amount of production time.

    Frankly, it's not easy and there are numerous safeguards in place because this is a fairly dangerous manufacturing operation trying to squeegee the wet priming compound into the case rims of rimfire cartridges. And the manufacture of priming compound, which is highly explosive, is not for the careless or squeamish. And I am also unsure what trying to obtain financing and insurance for the creation of a new rimfire plant would be like. And if billions of dollars were to be sunk into a new rimfire plant—if a location could be found and approved—would the demand stay high enough to justify it?"

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/11/19/keefe-report-why-can-t-i-find-22-ammo/
     
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    During the scarce periods-employees as the big box stores would buy the ammo before the public could buy it and then scalp it. I was always able to get a fairly decent supply from local gun stores that I had developed a long business relationship with. In the last several years, it was easy to buy 22. PSA was selling 5000 rounds for much cheaper than it was being sold for during the sandy hook scarcity period.
     
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    Oh goody...we can have more mass shootings at a decent price
     
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    that's really a disconnect from reality. 22s are the most popular plinking rounds and target rounds. Do you think that shortages harm mass shooters or serious target shooters. What your comment suggests is that you are a hater of honest gun owners most likely because they don't vote for candidates like hillary clinton
     
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    Kindly list some if the mass shootings that were committed with a 22 caliber weapon.
     
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    If such were to occur, the number of dead would likely be far lower as a result of using such poor quality ammunition unsuited for such purposes.
     
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    Twenty-two rimfire, not caliber. Caliber pertains to the width of the projectile, and involves a wide variety of ammunition.
     
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    Well, one reason is the hysterical frenzy most gun owners work themselves into when a Dem president gets elected. They start buying up all the guns and ammo they can get their hands on because of what they think will happen....which of course never does.
     
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    Isn't all 22 Cal rimfire?
     
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    Various centerfire rounds like .22-250, .222 and .223 can be considered .22 caliber. The .22 rimfire bullet is actually .223 while the others are .224 in actual diameter. .
     
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    Ahh you are talking 223 caliber. I get it now
     
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    I stand corrected by techno geeks.:)
     
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    True enough.
     
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    I'll bet you cannot cite one mass shooting perpertrated with .22LR.
     
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    Virginia Tech shooting.
     
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    We know the shooter carried a .22 pistol, but I've not seen any data on how many people he shot and/or killed with it. If you have, I'd love to see it. That said, the shooter in the Cascade Mall Shooting in Burlington, WA, 9/23/16, used a Ruger 10/22 to kill five people. The Royal Oak postal shooting, 5 dead, 5 wounded was also committed with a Ruger 10/22.
     
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    No kidding.
    If I were committed to the idea of a mass shooting, the hundreds of thousands of dollars I could bring to bear on the effort would not be meaningfully affected by ammo scarcity or weapon selection.
     
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    Yeah, but a brick of 500 rounds of .22LR is $20. Nobody needs that kind of arsenal ;)
     
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    Have you seen data on how many people he shot and/or killed with the 9mm? By all reports I've seen the assumption is both were used.
     
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    I've seen no breakdown at all.
     
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    I buy them at case lot quantities=5000 rounds for about 210 or so. Just picked up 2000 rounds of 9mm Wolf blasting ammo. 135 a 1000+ Ohio Sales tax
     
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    There is always that one.....
    I'd be willing to bet this cool cat has a graduate degree from one of those "good" colleges.... You know the ones that indoctrinates the students so that they fail to be able to "think for themselves" so they rely on what the left tells them to think.... Darn... there I go making judgements again about people I don't know.... Shame on me.
     
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    I can tell you this... My father in law works for Winchester Ammunitions and they STILL run the Rimfire line nonstop. In my neck of the woods, it's still not available like it once was in the local stores. Sure, I could always buy it online, but the days of getting it at Wally World for $19/box has ended. Even theirs, (when they have it) is closer to $30/brick for the same stuff I have in my safe that cost me $19 just a few years ago.
     
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