"House Passes Concealed Carry Reciprocity"

Meaning the felon can obtain a weapon plus permit and travel elsewhere packing even though those States wouldn't have allowed him to even get a gun

 

When you conquer a society you disarm them, destroy their heroes and tear down their monuments. Unfortunately, we turned out not to be quite as "conquered" as they assumed and we elected Trump!

Imagine where we would be and be headed were Hillary making all these Judicial appointments, that Trump is making. He has made more rookie year Judicial appointments than any President, in the modern era.

 

Only professionals should be allowed to handle fire extinguishers!

 

Amen to that. And he still is not finished.

 

So your ok with illegals being able to vote and get driver's license, but not an American citizen who did their time getting rights restored?

 

You are not earning fire extinguishers since when the founders lived, they had pails of water and blankets to put out fires and shovels to shovel dirt.

An interesting fact is this nation's fire protection is mostly private citizens in local groups.

 

The ridiculous things you guys worry about.

You've got gang members running amok in your gang infested gun controlled cities and you're worried about a guy who tore the tag off his mattress getting his rights back, going through a long legal process, going through the effort to get a CCW....and then traveling to your city so he can shoot someone?

That's the most ridiculous fear I've ever heard.

 

Great Point!

 

Amazing, they just can't recognize that no Constitutional right is absolute

And you don't borrow one phrase of the Amendment and apply it, it is the entire Amendment, and till you can arrive at a definition of the prefatory clause, it was put at the offset for a reason, you can't move on and just take the part you like. Didn't you learn that in elementary school?

 

Having a fire extinguisher in your home makes it more likely you will be killed by a fire extinguisher!

 

Ah, NYC or a Boston are hardly "gun controlled cities," quite the opposite, and did job ever notice both are in heavily gun regulated States?

Now before you reply with the "but Chicago" keep in mind, Indiana is only a twenty minute drive away, an aspiring entenpeuror with a car trunk can make a killing on a weekend

 

Last I knew, fire extinguisher weren't capable of killing multiple numbers of people in seconds

 

Or that you will kill a beloved family member with your fire extinguisher, or that they will stand around and watch you spray and rather than running, perish in the flames!

We are so lucky to have Democrats remove these choices from us, so we don't screw up!

 

I agree that the Constitution itself is "NOT ABSOLUTE". Why? Because, obviously, it can be amended, and has been amended so far 27 times! We could abolish the right to bear arms anytime that "we, the people" want to -- all we have to do is amend the Constitution to do away with it.

But as it stands today, the 2nd Amendment applies to ALL states of the United States, and because of the 10th Amendment it always will, unless the Constitution is amended to abolish it. And, that isn't likely, my 'regurgitation' notwithstanding....

Oh, BTW, the 'similarity' some see between Constitutional Amendments and the Articles of Confederation is irrelevant. The Constitution of the United States and its Constitutional Amendments have supremacy over everything else. You may feel that you have some sort of supernatural powers that enable you to speak about how poor, dead Justice Scalia might think, but somehow I doubt it in this case....

. "Hey, don't everybody thank me at the same time! And after all, I did beat the South into submission!"

 

Which states authorize domestic offenders and felons concealed carry? California? New York?

 

Halon drench systems will quickly kill everyone in the room.

 

Of course you must use state crime statistics and firearm (fatalities) to muddy the discussion.

If Maryland's gun control laws were its supposed saving grace, then their city of Baltimore would not be among the most dangerous and violent city in the nation.

Gun control is a fool's argument. Crime is based on demographics, their culture and how well law and order is enforced.

 

Nah, already repeated that with documentation four times, read back and return when you catch up

 

Sure they can, the same way turning on the gas while everyone is sleeping, or stabbing them to death in their sleep, or setting the house on fire, or one of any other methods.

 

Bmore isn't the "dangerous" city gun advocates portray it as, been there many times, and just like Chicago, it has its' bad areas just as any other city or State does, funny how the biggest critics are people who have never been to those cities they so easily comdemn

 

Yeah, it happens a lot, surprised the shooter in Las Vegas didn't use more fire extinguishers in has massacre

 

Yes, the Supremacy Clause. No matter what the federal government or the states might wish to do, they have to stay within the boundaries of the Constitution. The Supremacy Clause is the cornerstone of the whole American political structure.

Sovereignty though, resides in The People.

 

2% of the counties have more than half of the nation's gun crimes, and even within those counties, its only some areas that generate the majority of them, and these areas often have the strictest gun control in the nation.

Remove those neighborhoods and the rest of the nation has a gun crime rate comparable to any other Western Nation, that is why it is silly to try to address this with national gun legislation, which the people understand, and the Democrats attempt to do so has cost them control of nearly every US state with a strong lawful gun culture.

 

No states allow it?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...rry-bill-national-reciprocity-fail/926631001/
"H.R. 38 would not allow felons and other prohibited possessors to carry concealed handguns. They’re not legally allowed to have a firearm now, and that would not change."

I didn't see it in your OP link nor in the bill itself:
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20171206/house-passes-concealed-carry-reciprocity

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th..."search":["concealed+carry+reciprocity+act"]}
(b) Implementation Assistance to States.--Section 103 of the NICS
Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 (34 U.S.C. 40913) is amended--
(1) in subsection (b)(3), by inserting before the semicolon
at the end the following: ``, including through increased
efforts to pre-validate the contents of those records to
expedite eligibility determinations'';
(2) in subsection (e), by striking paragraph (2) and
inserting the following:
``(2) Domestic abuse and violence prevention initiative.--
``(A) Establishment.--For each of fiscal years 2018
through 2022, the Attorney General shall create a
priority area under the NICS Act Record Improvement
Program (commonly known as `NARIP') for a Domestic
Abuse and Violence Prevention Initiative that
emphasizes the need for grantees to identify and upload
all felony conviction records and domestic violence
records.
``(B) Funding.--The Attorney General--
``(i) may use not more than 50 percent of
the amounts made available under section 207 of
the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017 for
each of fiscal years 2018 through 2022 to carry
out the initiative described in subparagraph
(A); and
``(ii) shall give a funding preference
under NARIP to States that--
``(I) have established an
implementation plan under section 107;
and
``(II) will use amounts made
available under this subparagraph to
improve efforts to identify and upload
all felony conviction records and
domestic violence records described in
clauses (i), (v), and (vi) of section
102(b)(1)(C) by not later than
September 30, 2022.''; and
(3) by adding at the end the following:
``(g) Technical Assistance.--The Attorney General shall direct the
Office of Justice Programs, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms,
and Explosives, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to--
``(1) assist States that are not currently eligible for
grants under this section to achieve compliance with all
eligibility requirements; and
``(2) provide technical assistance and training services to
grantees under this section.''.

SEC. 204. NATIONAL CRIMINAL HISTORY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

(a) State Grant Program for Criminal Justice Identification,
Information, and Communication.--Section 102 of the Crime
Identification Technology Act of 1998 (34 U.S.C. 40301) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)(3)--
(A) by redesignating subparagraphs (C), (D), and
(E) as subparagraphs (D), (E), and (F), respectively;
and
(B) by inserting after subparagraph (B) the
following:
``(C) identification of all individuals who have
been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment
for a term exceeding 1 year'';
(2) in subsection (b)(6)--
(A) by striking ``(18 U.S.C. 922 note)'' and
inserting ``(34 U.S.C. 40901(b))''; and
(B) by inserting before the semicolon at the end
the following: ``, including through increased efforts
to pre-validate the contents of felony conviction
records and domestic violence records to expedite
eligibility determinations, and measures and resources
necessary to establish and achieve compliance with an
implementation plan under section 107 of the NICS
Improvement Amendments Act of 2007''; and
(3) in subsection (d), by inserting after ``unless'' the
following: ``the State has achieved compliance with an
implementation plan under section 107 of the NICS Improvement
Amendments Act of 2007 or''.
(b) Grants for the Improvement of Criminal Records.--Section
106(b)(1) of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (34 U.S.C.
40302(1)) is amended--
(1) in the matter preceding subparagraph (A)--
(A) by striking ``as of the date of enactment of
this Act'' and inserting ``, as of the date of
enactment of the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of
2017,''; and
(B) by striking ``files,'' and inserting the
following: ``files and that will utilize funding under
this subsection to prioritize the identification and
transmittal of felony conviction records and domestic
violence records,'';

 

Yes, your gun controlled city is getting guns from places where guns are easily acquired but has a much lower murder rate.

It's not the number of guns per capita that drives the murder rate, it's the number of murderers per capita that drives the murder rate.

Where I live practically everyone carries or have firearms in their homes. Our murder rate is a fraction of 1%.

NYC's murder rate is low because the law is enforced there, and the "turf-mentality" of gangs is not as prevalent. The problem in Chicago is that you have a 7 in 10 chance of killing someone and never getting caught.