House Passes Gun "control" Bills

Over 21 sale maybe, magazines no. It “infringes”. California spends millions in legal costs trying constitutional schemes to make it look like they are doing something. They hate guns, but obviously they love crime.

 

You can get a hand gun here, but it's hard to get - you have to jump through hoops. I had an issue in living on the border town and homes on either side. It meant I had to do courses and tests in two states. And that was just to be able to use a .22 rimfire and an AIR RIFLE.

 

well we have to make sure that sort of idiocy doesn't take hold here

 

Yeah, a license for an air rifle - that's over the top. But for AR15's, sure. Why do I want a weapon like that, to shoot kangaroos?
btw - I have a kangaroo in my shirt as I type - 150 grams in weight, won't survive the cold here unless it gets body heat. We take in orphan joeys. Can't shoot them anymore. But wouldn't mind going boar hunting. Did it once with a cross bow - think you need a license for that too, I suppose.

 

I compete with an Australian made crossbow-no longer in business since the owner retired. A boy I coached was world champion. To defend his title, he would have had to go to Australia. But the laws are so stupid there-the only port of entry he could enter Australia was Perth and that made the trip far more expensive because the tournament was going to be held on the opposite end of the country.. and we are not talking hunting crossbows but rather jobs that look like Olympic target rifles and cannot shoot hunting arrows. He didn't go. I like our freedom here. White Americans don't have any higher rates of gun violence than whites living in countries that severely restrict firearms.

 

There was this guy, in Melbourne I think, he put up a bale of hay against his fence with a bulls eye target tacked to it. He fired a cross bow bolt into the hay - it went through the hay, through the fence, and through some guy sitting in his chair on the other side. Suppose the fletch stayed behind.

 

I think that the over 21 part of it should be absolutely rejected.

They love guns they just don't like the fact that people have them legally unless they're defending movie stars or something.

 

This just now
Say What?! Australian gun laws compared with America's in hilarious The Daily Show segment | Sunrise - YouTube

 

That mentality goes beyond the "rights" issue.......and well into ENTITLEMENT. It is now the fabric of the culture......as entrenched as the national anthem. This degree of gun culture .......is unique to the US.and is still the" wild west."

 

It was not an experiment, even serfs were required to have a weapon it was mandatory by proclamation from the king to both fight against an invasion force and for personal protection in jolly ole ukdom long before the us existed.

They knew the government would turn into a kleptocracy it has and at some point the people would want to change it, and they knew that the only way that could happen is by force and the only force that would work is force of arms.

More rights are usurped faster than we can even read about them much less do anything about it.

Mandatory shots, you no longer have the right to your own body. Wake up call!

Now as far as our brit friends are concerned who gave up their arms, well, misery likes company.

 

Indeed. Who exactly feels"safe" in a culture where any place is a target for mas killings. the more sensational , the better. Since millions of people have guns....... how has that prevented these shootings. How does a weapon keep one safe from gun violence??

When people can't handle weapons in a RESPONSIBLE manner....... they should not have weapons. They have to demonstrate that they are responsible. Before obtaining a weapon folks should get instructions on weapons and weapons management.......and should be tested. and retested every five years. Background checks should be imperative. and it would be smart to add a basic psychological test too.

But there is no appetite for anything sensible or responsible.........as the whole culture is based on MONEY and profits........ money that influences the lawmaker. Prof is and politics are more important than lives ........regardless of all the dishonest lip service we hear.trying to tell everyone otherwise.

 

I don't think money and profit is the real issue. The gun industry is far smaller than the tobacco industry, and we have had success on that front.
Guns are unique - Americans just love guns.

 

Here in the United States of America we seem to get bogged down in some little corner of discussion about guns rather than taking time to look at the problem realistically.

At present, focus seems to be on AR-15's and protecting children in school from death by gunshot. [Ed.: One of our two political parties will insure that no effective federal legislation to change the present situation is passed.]

Now, children do die of gunshot in the US. The statistics available show that 2% of those deaths occur in schools. 85% of children's deaths from gunshot, however, occur in the home.

And so it goes in the home of the brave, the land of the free, and the place where gunshot is one of the leading causes of death in children.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n un-shot.

 

Your arrogance is nearly as funny as your ignorance.

 

They indefinitely imprison those seeking asylum in camps offshore. They take the children’s eyeglasses and medications. They refuse medical treatment for the pregnant women. The workers at the camps carry knives to cut down the suicide by hangings in progress or after the fact. It ain’t sunshine and roses!

For more fun facts and documentation go here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073449776/

 

Sounds like these Australians are racists. lol

 

Perhaps. Or they could just be mean, uncaring bastards.

But they most certainly have no standing to criticize our policies or call Americans racist.

I discovered this hypocrisy when some from the land down under were criticizing Americans for wanting to reserve baby formula for citizens.

I’m finding more and more the criticisms of the US from Oz are to distract from their problems at home. Does this sound like what we hear daily on PF from the Southern Hemisphere?


Meanwhile in the land of Oz where there are no guns, no criminals, and no shootings….



https://amp.9news.com.au/article/9f61e60c-b80d-4482-8298-43c7c5a619cb

And:



https://amp.theguardian.com/austral...ts-and-yet-more-police-powers-but-to-what-end

And in Melbourne 2016.

https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2016/gun-city/day1.html

Melbourne 2020.
https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/gun-violence-grips-melbourne-20200212-p5402v.html

So firearm crime is exploding in Australia. They are expanding police powers like warrant-less searches to try and reverse the trends. People are scared for their lives. Law enforcement officers are scared for their lives because criminals are better armed than before the NFA. It seems like if these laws really worked firearm proliferation and crime would not be increasing at such alarming rates.

While Aussies come here to criticize firearm policy and offer unsolicited advice, firearm crime is exploding in their country. Doubling and tripling in short periods of time. I would think it may be prudent to attend to things at home before they end up worse of than we are.

It makes me wonder—are they ignorant of these domestic problems or are they being disingenuous? Or are these sources lying? Food for thought.

 

My theory on why so many post here from Australia.. Australia is boring. And they probably can't talk about politics without a knock on the door. So they can either talk about their lettuce shortage or come here to opine on the US.

The big news in Australia. At least what they are likely free to talk about.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2...and-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rise/101133906

 

Interesting.

I thought they were going to starve because it was too hot and dry?

 

They will never starve. What with the kangaroo burgers. eh what. And they are overrun with wild camels, which they are killing anyway to save the planet from global warming. Camel steak might be on the menu for them at some point. They shoot the camels from helicopters by the thousands. Probably using AR-15s.

 

We've said a thousand times that if someone is too dangerous to possess a gun, he's too dangerous to be on the street and should be in prison, or should be executed.

 

I am still not understanding why Americans are so fond of shooty shooty bang bang sticks.

 

That's really all they need to do?

And you consider that reasonable? For them to buy themselves an AR-15 and hundred rounds?

Even you clarification terrifies me.

 

for years people didn't even have to do that and we didn't have anyone being shot with AR 15s. I think that is more than reasonable. what part of "shall not be infringed" escapes your ability to comprehend?

 

I am not understanding why you are so worried about what other people do. are you American?