House votes to impose new Syria sanctions

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  1. litwin

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    finally , those who who kill "Syrians", will pay for their crimes.... respect to USA democratic institutions , and American great nation you guys are the truly leaders of the free world !!
    comments?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/333954-house-votes-to-impose-new-syria-sanctions
     
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    As far as I know Syria have been unable to trade due to International sanctions since the beginning of it's civil war, therefore assume the latest sanctions mainly aimed at Russia and Iran. They are responsible for Assad still having control of part of his country and therefore responsible for the atrocities he committed.

    I'll be interested to see if Trump uses this
     
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    my guess Trump´s position in congress and senate is very weak and Mr Trump is in very , very difficult position in general ...

    bbc

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    There is really nothing democratic about imperialism.
    Sure the US is strong and I'm not even arguing whether it's wrong or not to want to control the world, but at least don't be hypocritical about it and call it what it is.
     
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    Yes I can imagine Trump and all the chaos he creates would be a great source of humour for Putin and the rest of the world ... however the remaining sanctions and potential for more sanctions against Russia would likely dampen his spirits.

     
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    laughing, is part of the kgb-plan ...
     
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    So Assad does us all a favour by fighting off the barbarians for the past 6 years and what does he get for his pains? Why, he's branded a war criminal of course! It isn't Trump who's lost the plot, it's the dumb jobsworths in Washington. Stop the effing world I want to get off!
     
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    Lol... US deep state is just trying to implement the same old cliche called "sick man doctrine". It is to keep the regime run as weak as possible. They would have gone for the claim that Syrian government is no "legit" as Assad can't even control what's happening beyond less than 20% of Syria but it's not such an easy thing to do while there are some strong UN practices for past cases like "Nicaragua" that its government was recognized as the only "legitimate" power running the country despite it got entirely torn apart.

    So what they are doing is weakening Assad's ties with his people who have already been struggling what the west has been bringing upon them (blood and war), that's all. Will it work? Of course not. Why? Because there's this thing called the "REACTION THRESHOLD". What does that mean? That means every society has a threshold to react to certain societal challenges. It is relevantly "lower" in the west and "higher" in the east. The western countries react heavily even to "relevantly" small challenges that ""may"" affect their standard of living. The latest refugee influx is one good example for this. It's just the other way around for almost all of the eastern countries -except Japan. Most of eastern societies don't even react to "bombs" exploding in front of their apartment buildings. Those blasts has become an everyday routine. So their reaction threshold is much higher compared to the western societies. However, it can be manipulated by using certain social engineering methods and can be raised up or down with "certain dose" of implementations. I can give zillions of examples from throughout the world for this but I'd digress.

    So the Syrian society's reaction threshold is so high that you can't even tell if there is one left. What does that mean? That means these sorts of stupid sanctions from the west actually help Assad gathering more crowds behind him, let alone turning even small factions of them against him. And if your goal is not rendering such outcome -turning the society against him- by implementing those sanctions, then it means you don't even know what you're doing, which is even something worse :)
     
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    Right, the Americans who are killing Syrian civilians in their bombing raids, and are under investigation by the UN for doing it, want to distract from what they are doing in the way taught them by the 'satanist' Saul Alinsky, and accuse Assad of killing his own people... once again. This time in crematoriums of all things.

    Do you know that the government person who identified crematoriums in Syria quit the next day. No doubt asked to do so by Tillerson for spreading falsehoods. Either that or he was paid so much for spreading the falsehood, that he felt he could retire.


    If these sociopaths without any sense of right and wrong can convince the American people that the Syrians who 87% voted for Assad is a dictator, then they will be able to put in a terrorist group who will start killing everyone and force whoever survives to leave. Once they do, then they will be able to tell the American people that the Syrians are all happy.

    Of course it's doubtful that the US will exist then, more than likely we will be in a civil war because of those policies.
     
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    Yeah, then the Russians will be condemning and such, perhaps told Lavrov, were putting more sanctions on Syria, what you going to do?
     
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    Assad hasn't controlled more than 20% of Syria for some time now, this will be more continuation of the same.
     
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    He's had this "control" since about Oct 2015 when the russkis jumped in for him to try to maintain that%, prior to that he would have had ZERO, and would've dangled somewhere, I'm sure there was collective flatulation on the russkis and Iran's part back then.
     
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    Why did you repeat what I said?
     
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    Before Iran and Muscovites moved in, Assad had only 12 % some said only 10%...any even Muscovites experts say , he has 0 chance to keep his 20% a week with out Muscovy and Iran
     
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    And that 20% is tenuous, times not on his side.
     
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    Does that change anything about the fact that the US cannot go for the claim that Assad is illegitimate?
     
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    unfortunately for the world koba, Hitler and Lenin were illegitimate too. but in case of assad he illegitimacy is very limited , very few international organizations accept his present, even in MENA , he has illegitimacy problems, lets say Arab league , no place of the alawite butcher right?
     
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