Household Battery Subsidy

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts everyone?

    I know this is a stolen idea politically but reading what is happening in South Australia where they have already introduced subsidies and have seen companies start up manufacturing plants wellllll.........seems we might have a winner on more than one front

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11...p-the-market-for-household-batteries/10545102

    To be honest the big winners are likely to be the properties. I can see a lot of rural properties taking this up and not a few indigenous communities
     
  2. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Yes I think it's a brilliant idea.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's a fabulous idea and jumped off Jay Weatherill and his mad deal with Tesla.
    SA shows the rest of the country what can be done and to utilise the old car factory is nifty!
    I wish it could have been an Australian company but Gina is too busy being a mining magnate.
     
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    Ultimately this is going to happen worldwide IMO.

    Just consider how many people already use a UPS for their computer. The same principle applies to the rest of the house.

    Furthermore it makes sense on a cost basis too because the cost of grid power is going to rise. If you can reduce or eliminate your dependency on grid power then you are not at the mercy of the fossil fuel industry any longer.

    The entire concept of how we generate and store electrical power is going to go through a similar evolution to the one we saw with home computers and the internet. How many people back in the 60's and 70's even knew what a computer was let alone grasped what it would mean to have one in their own home. Now they are commonplace and no one gives it a second thought.

    The same will apply to home energy storage and usage. In a couple of decades it will be the norm and no one will even question why it is necessary.
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Yes, if every house produced 60% of it's electricity, imagine how much coal would not need to be burnt
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    How do we convince the foreigners who own our baseload generating capacity that this is a good thing?
     
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    They are coming on board as new markets are opening they are shifting the business model
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Solution: Give Elon Musk Australian citizenship to add to his collection.

    "Elon Reeve Musk is a technology entrepreneur and investor. He holds South African, Canadian, and U.S. citizenship"
    Does he pay income tax to all of them? :hmm:



    Moi :oldman:


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Simple.

    Nationalize foreign owned essential industry.

    Oh, but we're so afraid. They might ....
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    We have a Liberal Federal govt Moi, they'd never do that.
     
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    How un American, that is socialism. I agree though
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep, me too.
     
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    To Moi ,they are not liberal, they are conservative. To the liberal voters they aren't liberal, the liberal party was a middle ground party, but it has been hijacked by the extreme right.
     
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    Long live socialism, socialism is about society, capitalism is about capital, no humanity .
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    A country is about more than money and its' people shouldn't be the victims of the progression of capitalism.
     
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    @Sallyally
    @LeftRightLeft

    I remember when Eisenhower built his "Freeways".
    Lots of homeowners had to move and I doubt any felt they got a "fair price".

    Sometimes, gov't does such stuff for the good of the nation.
    Regardless of label.


    AND Australia's problem of Party drift is in part because
    the people cannot elect the Chief Executive of their choice,
    but must chose among the party's stogy, old (bought) offerings!

    Can it be more simple considering your experience today?
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh , really? I seem to remember two Bushes with a third having a run too.
    The thing about using a party member as a Leader is that you wont get any nasty surprises as the US did.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No nasty surprises here.
    Only that the DNC and Democratic Party nomination had the fix in place
    and I was cheated out of the opportunity to vote for Bernie.

    And who told Jeb, "No"! Not the GOP. The people.
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Absolute garbage, I mean how on earth can you praise a "Democratic" system where the electoral college has the final say and has no obligation to vote the way the people want. That's how you end up with a fool as president, Trump is the perfect example. Not only is he not a good president, he is not a good person and he definitely isn't a good man.

    So stop trying to sell a broken system to us as our system is proven to produce a society of lower unemployment and higher standard of living than yours consistently.

    Constructive criticism is welcome, arrogant superiority of a false kind is most unwelcome
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Had it not been for Hillary, Wasserman-Schultz, et al corrupting
    the internal workings of the impartial Democratic Party, we might be
    discussing President Sanders today.
    Don't Blame Moi.


    BTW I do like the idea of the electoral college and some degree of
    geographical representation. Study up on the Founding Fathers compromise
    and why it occurred. The arguments on both sides are obvious today.
    Electoral_College.jpg


    Heaven is not a democracy
    and democracy is not heaven.


    Moi :oldman:


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please educate me.
    Isn't Australia currently in a time of "party drift"
    regardless of name (Labour - Liberal - Conservative)

    Evidence of "bought".
    Like Hillary shifting the Democratic Party from Main St. to Wall St.
    Don't forget those donations to the Clinton Foundation!
    It was not for the :heart: of Trump but, Hillary's corruptions that lost her the election.


    Moi :oldman:






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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @LeftRightLeft

    This is the downunder forum
    If you must compare and despise the :flagus: :salute: Electoral College
    on the wrong forum - don't forget
    Electoral_College.jpg

    :blowkiss:
     
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    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    It is you who are saying Australia should be more like the US .... Over and over again, forgive me for proving you are wrong
     
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    Wrong forum, this is the Australian forum lol
     
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    The electoral colleges were because of the distance and the fact news had to be spread via horseback riders, surely the US has come a little into the future since then.
     
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