How Bernie Sanders and Democrats can avoid the 2016 mistakes that gave us Donald Trump

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent op-ed and one that all Democratic voters need to take heed of...
     
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    Democrats are already falling into the same trap they did last time.

    They have already convinced themselves that Trump is so bad that he has no chance of winning so many will sit it out because Trump can't win and he will roll on to another easy victory.
     
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    Time to make it easier to vote computerize voting let everyone vote from the convenience of their own home on a PC or Smart Phone.No standing in long lines in the rain.
     
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    Which would allow the Chinese to hack your election

    Huawei ;)
     
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    Near as I can tell the only ones swallowing UHC = socialism is the Trump base and there is fair proportion of THEM will vote for free health care

    Just focus on that
     
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    I do not promise to vote for the Democratic Nominee. I promise to vote for the Democratic Nominee if the candidate is likely to need my vote to prevail over Trump in my state. Its Oregon. Not to worry. Trump wins Oregon when Sanders wins Mississippi. Talk to Dems in Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin about showing up and voting smart. They were idiots.
     
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    OP

    I think Mr Sanders should hire an adviser on public speaking, because he looks a bit demented at the lecterns.
     
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    As a New Yorker, I can relate but the party must stay unified and fall in line with the nominee. I'm loving that Bernie threw his hat in because he will keep the Progressives on point and pushes the policies that need to be front and center exactly where they belong...front and center.
     
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    The D party sure has a dilemma. Run a moderate who won’t get the young progressives to the polls or run a fanatic who will scare the crap out of moderate D’s and independents. From a purely selfish standpoint I hope the field doesn’t get paid or threatened to cease and desist before some good primary debate.

    If I was in charge of securing a candidate for the general I’d figure out a way to avoid the primaries altogether. With a little help from the willing media it would be doable. The D voter will back whoever the party wants with a little prodding. You don’t want an open honest primary debate. It would be much too informative for the American people.
     
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    Historically that trait has worked well on the masses craving rule.
     
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    The dems can run anyone they want but when Trump explains his opponent's record and then tells his record Trump will win again. The media has a lot of people fooled that Trump is unpopular. Trump has a great record for only 2 years in office. The dems are pathetic and look like juveniles. Look what they are proposing -- a 14-year-old knows better.
     
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    Trump is vastly unpopular
     
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    Oh man, weak tea! If this is all the democrats have they should just go ahead and concede now.
     
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    Except among the American people.
     
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    Especially with the American people
     
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    2 things that will Democrats will do that will bing trump victory.

    1... maga hoaxes

    2... Russia Russia Russia BS
     
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    The fake news media is not the American people.
     
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    Very bad idea. If you know anything about internet security and especially government you would not say this. On top of that, every State would have to have their own system since the national election is run by each State.
     
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    Please let Bernie be the candidate. Please. LOL
     
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    True. Rush limpballs is on his own
     
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    A lot of people thinking someone is unpopular is what makes someone unpopular. That's literally what the word means.
     
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    All the dems have to do is appeal to their traditional base. Quit obstruction Trump when he does things that traditionally have been applauded by the dems. Fair Trade and and policies that help our most vulnerable citizens.

    You got Trump on the stump for trying to keep American jobs here and Saying that illegals are taking funds and services from our own poor, and competing with them on first steps jobs. These are ideals that the dems have since Truman and we have a billionaire republican siphoning off our base by usurping our traditional values. We have voted for A wall in Mexico and have voted for funding for the wall and now we say that the votes we cast 4 years ago american voters should forget about because now a wall is evil. We now want to spend our kids blood and trillions of dollars fighting wars that all they do is killed millions under our flag to insure generations now hate us. The did not like us because we backed Israel, They now just don't like us they hate us. Running against traditional democratic values is counterproductive and plays into his hand.

    The Dems have to run on single payer and investments in infrastructure and Education. Instead of raising tax rates on the rich, just treat capital gains as earned income. 85% of equities are owned by the top 10 percent. Then a return to more regs on investment banks or break them up into smaller units. Real campaign finance reform with prohibitions from unions and corporate donations.
     
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    Either you have a casual relationship with the truth, OR, your so uninformed that your opinion is total garbage.
     
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    Even After Sanders, Harris, and Others Enter Race, Bookies Have Donald Trump as Massive 2020 Favorite

    Although there are now twelve (twelve!) already-declared candidates opposing Donald Trump in 2020, the nation’s gambling gurus are still heavily favoring him for the win in the next election. In fact, as the Washington Examiner reported Wednesday, the entry of Bernie Sanders as #12 in the race didn’t even budge the numbers.

    https://www.mediaite.com/entertainm...s-have-donald-trump-as-massive-2020-favorite/
     
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    For me to vote Democrat they must field a man, I will never vote for a Foid, and they must not be a Socialist I would vote for a business minded moderate pro-economy and anti-globalist man but they won't field one of those. So what choice are they giving me Trump or a Socialist who wants to give away free stuff to people without vetting them for disability (if your not disabled you have no right being permanently helped by taxpayer money).
     

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