How big a problem is racism in the USA?

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  1. Le Chef

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    It's easy, perhaps, for me to say, but I do not think that racism is a big problem in the USA. It only appears to be so, and it only appears to be so to an insignificant percentage of people, and all of them are insignificant intellectuals, commentators, and academics who thrive on controversy. What do they contribute to society, other than discord? They create nothing. They build nothing. They produce nothing.

    In my area, racism is not even an issue, much less a "problem."

    A police shooting of a black person appears always to the Left as an act of racism. But it's just an appearance. Dig just a little and we discover that these shootings are extremely rare, and therefore a tiny percentage of police encounters with black people. And then only a tiny number of violent encounters can fairly be attributed to racism. No cop wants to make the news, lose his career, or be sued. Sometimes people who resist arrest just happen to be black.

    Interracial relationships, even here in the south, are commonplace. I notice them because I am old, but there is no real problem in terms of social criticism, ostracisation, or shunning, much less harassment.

    Kids of various races at least appear to be getting along and commingling at the skateboard and ball parks, and I see them walk and joke together walking home from school.

    Our real problem at present is judgmentalism. How and why and when we discontinued recognizing judgmentalism as a vice, I can't say.
     
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    It's the long, perverted love affair of the media and provocateurs' of all persuasions....like the devil William Randolph Hearst so succinctly put it, "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war.". Keeping controversy and conflict going 24/7 equals big buck$.
     
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    Where I live racism isn't a problem either. But I live out in the country around a lot of retired military or people who worked for the military or were once military dependents. It's unique. I'm white, married to a Thai, my neighbor is black, married to a Korean. There's a Cambodian couple, non-military living next door, across the road is my oldest daughter married to a Laotian. Up the road, a white retired army married to a black woman and a few houses down a black man who worked for the army all his life is married to a German. Then we have the odd ball black couple from New Jersey living across the road.

    If anyone ever went to a PX or commissary on a military base they'd be shocked at the number of mixed couples and the rash of mixed kids. Now Georgia isn't your average state for nationwide figures on demographics. Perhaps it is for the south though. Around 60% white 35% black, 5% Hispanic, 5% Asian with the rest mixed.

    Now if there's a problem with racism, it seems to be confined to the cities. I think the problem of racism comes from folks who place people into groups. Who don't know or have any friends other than the race they are. Instead of Joe, Henry, Curly, Mo and Larry, it's that black man, that white man, that Mexican etc.

    I would say those who are the most race conscious are the most racist. Those who have to place people into groups probably will never see folks as individuals, just part of whatever group they place them in. I think you'll always have racists, you'll always have those who will find racism in anything and everything as they go looking for it. They'll deem my morning cup of coffee is racist because it's black.
     
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    It’s all the Orangemans fault
     
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    You are 100% spot on about the cities! I went into the 6th grade when we desegregated the schools (small Virginia town), there were no fights, riots, protests...nothing, we just went to school and that was that. Large metropolitan areas seem to be a hell-scape unto themselves, races and ethnicities segregate, and stepping over an invisible border can mean injury or worse. The big cities are held up as examples of the racism in America when in fact THEY are the outliers!!!
     
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    I live in the country so we don't have any racism here at all. I assume it is all in the cities. News reports cause me to think that there has been a noticeable increase in racism against whites. You can imagine how much I care about that. It is politics, after all.
     
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    Racism is ginned up by the left because without it, they would have nothing else. They want to bring back the old days of racism.
     
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    After all the effort they put into fighting segregation. Apparently, it is what they wanted all along and were buffaloed by ML King. King would hate what is going on right now. No doubt about that.
     
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    I do wonder, and I do suspect, that slavery would have withered away on its own in Dixie without the carnage of the Civil War and the pain of reconstruction. Resentful whites took out their shame of losing the civil war on blacks, those who didn't hit the trail for Chicago and Detroit, anyway.

    I also wonder whether we would have gradually desegregated without the Civil rights legislation of the 60's. That one I doubt.

    I actually am old enough to remember a black high school friend forbidden entrance into a club in Louisiana because of his race. Nicest kid you ever could meet, too. That was in 1970(!), and it was wrong, but with all the drunken redneck ignoramuses in there, it was probably for the best.
     
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    There is no where free of racism. I spent plenty of time living out in BUFU country. Racism is alive and well, just hidden better in many cases.
     
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    Do you have any theories as to why or how this happened? And again, is it even as bad a problem as it appears to be? Even there? Chicago is a shooting gallery at night and on the weekends, true, but even those shootings are rarely race-based, as far as I can tell.

    Tell you something stupid I did once ... at least I think it was stupid. I dressed up in a cowboy suit once and traveled from my hotel in Chicago to the V.A. hospital as an entertainer. Had an expensive guitar (Martin OM35) with me. It gets stupider: I actually took the L train across town and back to get to the VA. Carrying this guitar. One guy gets on the train and asked me politely for money. I said no. He said "thanks anyway" and moved on.

    I won't push my luck, though. I've seen Chicago twice and that's enough.
     
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    Would you feel better if I said there is no overt racism? I don't see it. I don't hear it. It isn't there. But, of course, you are the racism promotion expert.
     
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    The reason this question matters is that the news media has us all fretting and wasting tons of energy and getting depressed worrying about something that may not even exist. In my view, they might as well be running stories 24/7 that we face imminent attack by Martians. Scary if true, but it isn't true.
     
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    Bad post , sorry learning how to work the functions.
     
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    How big is the problem? Not big enough to hinder any American.
     
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    Racism is a natural result of diversity. It looks to me that the nation is returning to segregation. Too bad, really. We have failed at the "inclusion" part of the equation.
     
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    Wanna slow down racism? Stop talking about race.
     
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    Well racism is stupid but with the younger generation it isn’t an issue at all but it is an issue for politicians that want it to be.
     
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    What does BUFU stand for?
     
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    Does anyone here think ethnostates for each race are the answer to the racial problem? I don't think it is, but I've heard some people say it's a good idea.
     
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    The only racism problem we have are democrats trying to reverse the clock and turning minorities into a permanent victim class.
     
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    BUFU is short for anal sex. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butt **** egypt

    BUFU country is, for enlightened progressives who, for some reason, like living in Brooklyn, Chicago and Oakland, out in the middle of nowhere, with too many politically incorrect cops, judges and juries who frown on lawlessness.
     
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    No. There are too many gradations of skin color for it to be implemented, and even if there were only 2 or 3 races, race wars would be inevitable.
     
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    I think your membership in a certain demographic may "color" you opinion.
     
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    I will point out that a bunch of white guys are not the best judges of the current state of racism, at least in our country. I submit that minorities have a much more realistic perspective on this; and I believe they would, by & large, disagree with the prevailing assessment of this thread.

    I'm not saying that some in the media don't, at times, present stories in which the racism angle is overplayed, given an unwarranted emphasis. But the Black Lives Matter movement, was not started by white, liberal, elitist talking heads, OK? If racism was not, "a problem," nor would BLM be a thing. And I will have to call anyone a Conservative elitist, who is so unaware of the state of race relations, worldwide, as to not understand that racism is, in effect, natural to human culture.

    I guess we can consider it the good news, for those who do stay informed about world events, that racism is not as bad, here, as in some other places. In the Dominican Republic, for example, the majority Spanish population-- who consider themselves, "white," (which, of course, they are) except in the U.S., they would be considered Latino, or Hispanic, which is most definitely not thought of as the same as caucasian-- have recently broken international law, by depriving any people born in the D.R., who were formerly, automatically citizens, from their sole citizenship, if either of their parents were foreigners. This has mostly been directed against the other ethnic group, with whom they share their island, Haitians (who are black descendants of African slaves). These Dominicans, who have lived their entire lives in the D.R., have no known family back in Haiti, and for most, who don't even speak the Haitian Creole language, have been deported to on the order of about 100,000 people (which is a significant number, relative to the size of the country). Another 200,000 have left, "voluntarily," to escape the citizen violence that is being directed against them. It is serious vigilante racism: hanging black Dominicans, in city parks, and burning down the houses of their black-skinned neighbors, who are of Haitian lineage. Modern U.S. racism looks fairly tame relative to the Dominican variety.

    Learning a little about ethnic cleansings, such as this one, might provide a needed dose of reality to some who, "don't see," racism, so assume that it doesn't exist.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270499

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pb...hip-shift-leaves-dominican-haitians-stateless

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/06/16/the-bloody-origins-of-the-dominican-republics-ethnic-cleansing-of-haitians/?outputType=amp

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...802587/dominican-republic-haitian-deportation

    https://www.npr.org/sections/parall...-revisit-painful-memories-of-parsley-massacre
     
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