How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

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  1. CKW

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    Its destructive because the definition is changed from upholding the ideal arrangement that offers the best outcome for our offspring to a definition of anything goes as long as the adults like it.

    It's a trend to devalue children...to make them the vulnerable baggage of what ever arrangement brings gratification to the adults.
     
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    We know that the majority of black children are raised without a father in the home. We know the huge consequences of that. Now that we have a solid statistical sample, the destructive consequences of going away from the ideal standard, mother and father in the home is obvious.

    The fact that people want to ignore the obvious and put children at risk in " experiments " show our trend in devaluing children.
     
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    Infertile women/men can't produce either. Nor "can" any woman who refuses to do so. No soiciety relies on all of its' population to reproduce so your conviction is laughable ... or "pure and total rubbish".
     
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    What contraception are you talking about that was around in cave man days?
     
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    Yeah, I probably should've said natural purpose. That is a more appropriate term. The natural purpose of sex cannot be pleasure alone under the right biological circumstances.
     
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    Grass, leaves, and tree sap.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    Sorry divorce did that long before two dudes could marry each other

    That happens long before 2015.
     
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    Wait... He was bragging about how he could walk into women's locker rooms on Howard Stern?

    What's wrong with that unless people are assuming his gender.

    Don't forget these are the people fighting for dudes that identify as women to use women's spaces. Now it's suddenly a problem?
     
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    You are putting the horse before the cart. The reason it's pleasurable is so that we do it in order to make more children. If it wasn't pleasurable all those times we didn't make children the species would have died out years ago.
     
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    There's far more at work there than just single parenting.

    There's poverty, institutional racism, drugs and the climate around drugs...unequal prosecution of laws and the problems that creates...
     
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    Most of these early natural methods of birth control were probably ineffective, but if it was ever effective then natural, pleasure-only sex was incredibly achieved!
     
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    Yeah, so it wasn't pleasure alone, is what I'm saying.
     
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    What isn't pleasure alone?
     
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    The natural purpose of sex isn't pleasure alone. And it wasn't even able to be achieved before contraception.
     
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    Pleasure is the motivation for sex and yes it was that's how all of these people got here.
     
  16. chris155au

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    Well yes, for most of the sex that people have, but for intentional procreational sex, wanting a baby is probably the primary motivating factor.

    Yes it was what?
     
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    Not likely. I doubt most people born were planned. The primary motivator was pleasure.

    Sexual pleasure before contraception.
     
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    You think so? I'd like to see some statistics on that. You may be right, but abortion for an unplanned pregnancy sure does seem like a popular thing these days. If you go back far enough before abortion invention/legalisation I'd say that you're right, that most people born weren't planned.

    Yes, I said that it wasn't sexual pleasure ALONE! It wasn't possible without resulting in a pregnancy, assuming that both people were fertile and the woman was able to get pregnant at the time of intercourse.
     
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    Yes I do.
    Feel free to Google.
    Do you think unplanned pregnancy started because of abortion? I would think that was the other way around.

    If say even still to this day. Out of all of the people I know not one of them was planned.



    As the propose. But I never spoke of the purpose. I said it was the motivation.
    Sure it was, it was written about in Genesis.

    Geniuses 38:9
    But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother.
     
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    No, I'm saying that people don't need to continue their unwanted pregnancy with the availability of abortion. So I'd be surprised if most unwanted pregnancies ended up with birth.

    LOL. How the hell do you even know that? Do you go around asking people if they were planned?

    Well I spoke of purpose (specifically natural purpose) right here:
    To which you replied:
    So I rightly assumed that you were speaking about purpose too.

    I think that most people think about 'sex' in its fullest form - reaching climax during intercourse, rather than the highly risky game of 'pull out!' I'm talking about it in its fullest form.
     
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    I doubt many people consider that option.



    Close friends, no it comes up in conversation sometimes.



    And I told you you were putting the cart in front of the horse.


    Yeah, not "I'm impregnating you." That argues your point more than mine.

    Point is sex didn't have to end in pregnancy before contraception.
     
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    I'll take your word for it, but that's not sexual assault.

    To be candid, I think when he said "you can grab 'em by the p---y," he meant you can because women consent to being felt up by stars. This as opposed to "And nobody can touch me because I have the cops in my back pocket." Plus I think he was exaggerating, like saying someone is "getting away with murder."
     
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    What, the option of abortion?

    Correct, it just wouldn't have been full sex.
     
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    Wrong again. I'm referring to society's partiality for heterosexual unions, not the non existence of homosexuality. There are of course exceptions and infertile adults. The exception makes the rule. But every culture without exception is partial to heterosexual unions, mostly because of the hope for babies and perpetuation of the family.
     
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    You can say whatever bigoted garbage you want.

    Just dont expect people to pay any attention to you, or be surprised if they just write you off as an ignorant loon
     
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