How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Not in this country but your point being what?
     
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    Homosexual couples, in terms of both being the same sex, true...at least not yet. Medical science is advancing. But for the sake of argument we will exclude artificial means.

    However, homosexual individuals can and do reproduce. And we can even say homosexual couples can in terms of the couple being a gay man and a gay women who are having sex for the purpose of procreation. Keep in mind just because a person is attracted to one sex, doesn't automatically mean they are repulsed by sex with the other.
     
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    Keeping the human race surviving isnt really much of a worry

    Ranks right up there with being afraid of honduran women and children
     
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    Why do you believe the US isn't overpopulated at 327M people?
     
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    Why in the hell would you "HAVE" to complain?
     
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    But apparently it's ok to spew virulent bigotry

    Interesting
     
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    Apparently he's a self-appointed hall monitor
     
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    And the right call dems snowflakes???
     
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    What do you mean "if gay marriage was 100%"? Are you making a strawman argument that people want only gay marriage legal and straight marriage illegal? Not a single I have ever run across, especially not here, has ever called to gay marriage to be the only thing. Useful/useless is a purely subjective view, and marriage has had several purposes and definitions over the course of human history.
     
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    It is just more chipping away at the foundation of the family. BTW.. I don't think anyone had a problem with the ternm"civil union" which BTW is inclusive of heterosexuals choosing to partner. I will never accept the term "gay marriage' , it is nothing but another brick from the wall, and communist at its core.. destruction of the traditional family is part of their strategy.. the idea that they, the communist, will be "the family"
     
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    Actually yes, the idea that only the biological mother and father is good for the raising of a child is indeed outdated. And we have proven that repeatedly with kids brought up by other relative, and by foster and adopted parents. Being able to reproduce and being able to raise a child are not intrinsically linked. They exist separate and apart from each other, able to exist in the same person/people, but neither requiring the other.

    Having both a father figure and a mother figure are advantageous. It does not require that either be a parent. There are plenty of successful kids who have father figures in their live that are not part of their household.
     
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    Why not? Who says that any given thing with the human body have to have only one natural purpose? Tell me what is the singular natural purpose of the mouth?
     
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    How is a gay couple marrying chipping away at your family?

    Gay marriage is communist, is it? Wow....that's hilarious.
     
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    Ok, that was hilarious!
     
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    U.S. fertility rate is so low, the population can’t replace itself

    In 2017, the number of babies born in the United States dropped to its lowest level yet. A new report published Thursday (Jan. 10) says that the current fertility rate in the U.S. is not high enough for the population to be able to replace itself.

    The total fertility rate, which is based on birth certificates, in the U.S. last year was 1,765.5 births per 1,000 women, a rate about 16 percent lower than what is considered necessary to keep population numbers at the same level. For that to happen, the fertility rate has to be about 2,100 births per 1,000 women of childbearing age over their lifetime, according to the National Vital Statistics Report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    South Dakota (with a rate of 2,227.5) and Utah (with a rate of 2,120) were the only states with fertility rates higher than the national replacement level....

    https://www.nola.com/news/article_cba03c30-8051-5466-a653-d91cd2cb9365.html
     
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    I committed father and mother, not figures, are vital in the nuclear family and gives our children the best chances in life.
     
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    It's always a worry.
     
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    So you're saying we need more immigrants

    Agreed

    Worked pretty well for us these past two centuries
     
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    No, it really isnt

    Dont let irrational fears make you do dumb things
     
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    Sure it is on multiple fronts, look at the worry the human caused global warmest engage in. It was overpopulation now it is underpopulation.
     
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    Right, but what does that have to do with the fact that the US is currently overpopulated?
    From your link...
    “I think in general these numbers will balance out after a while. I don’t foresee any long-term effects of this,” she said. “But that is still to be determined to see if it balances out.”
     
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    I said nothing about immigrants.
     
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    The whole issue of personal or individual rights is a complex one, & one America has always wrestled with--& still does. You accuse liberals of denying free speech on the subject of homosexuality, but most of our freedoms impact others around us in ways they are uncomfortable with. For every issue I or you or anyone agrees with, someone nearby sees in an entirely different light, & disagrees with. Americans are used to thinking they have the right to think for themselves, & support those ideas they agree with, openly & publicly. Inevitably, someone, somewhere will be offended by that, & make an issue or conflict from that disagreement. Your post above is an example of that. But you do have a right to your opinion, as well as a right to express it openly & publicly. However, those who were born homosexual, have an equal right to have & express their own views, or lifestyle, as Americans. You & they are regarded as equals in terms of having personal rights. If those conflict in any way, it is up to both sides to honor the other's rights to disagree. Otherwise, neither side really has any rights at all. If one side can squash the rights of the other, then the whole concept of individual rights ceases to exist, & it becomes a society where those willing to inflict their will over others thru force, rules. And that becomes a dictatorship, in one form or another.

    I am not homosexual, but I honor their right to their own lives & lifestyles. Their lovemaking does no harm to me. And, I'd add, love in ANY form of expression, is always superior to hatred or intolerance.
     
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    Because contraception is man made.

    There isn't one, but there is for sex.
     
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    We aren't over populated.
     

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