And that is your opinion....and rather a funny one... SHOW where Democrats have said the fetus isn't alive.
I was still correct That typical Repub comment was in response to : """""Pregnancy does threaten the life of women. And it causes bodily harm. You disagreeing won't change that. And it's a sight more INCONVENIENT than a 2 hour wait at the DMV."""" Repubs CAN'T BE BOTHERED with WOMEN'S HEALTH AND RIGHTS....Thank you for admitting it... THIS is about Repubs callous attitude towards BORN people and how they defend and pretend to care about fetuses ONLY as a means to control women...and get votes..
When nearly half of abortions are women living at or below the poverty line then welfare becomes a vital tool to reduce the rate of abortion
Think of it as collateral damage caused by men being unable to keep thier reproductive organs under control
So innocent lives are reduced to "collateral damage" ? Calling them by another term makes it better somehow? War is waged ON PURPOSE with full knowledge in advance that innocent people will be killed.....there has NEVER been a war where innocent people haven't been killed. If one is against abortion because they think it's taking an innocent life then they have to be against all war, too.
Are you addressing someone ? Or just sneaking your post in without hitting the "Reply" button hoping no one notices?? That's OK, you don't have much of an argument anyway.
Just read a righty's post in another thread that recommended just bombing that caravan of refuges until they're all dead. """""jimmy rivers said: ↑ If I was US president I would seriously consider bombing and liquidating that entire caravan, and not leave even one person left alive."""""" They are INCONVENIENT so just kill them.. Guess they don't really believe all "life" is precious but I already knew that...
Medical science has advanced significantly since 1973. And Americans are smarter about the subject - despite the public school system. The question of "when does the baby become a person?" is much more significant than it used to be. The issue used to be framed as a womans rights issue, now its more of a balance of the rights of the woman and the baby.
NO, it's not. It is all about women's right to their own bodies....a fetus has NO rights. "" The question of "when does the baby become a person?" is much more significant than it used to be. """ A baby is always a person, and was right from the second it was born.
No. It is not more significant. And the majority of people still support roe v wade. Moreover it's not a balance of rights. You already knew that.
Wrong. Do some reading. The majority of people do not want abortion banned because the majority are sympathetic to the hardship cases (rape, incest, severe birth defect, like of the mother). And Roe if implemented int eh manner it was written is compatible with that sentiment. Roe allows the govt to restrict abortion in teh 2nd trimester, and severely restrict it in the 3rd. You don't see it that way because you are blinded by your "progressive" religion.
Progressivism is not a religion. Conservatism is however a mental illness. Prove me wrong and change my mind.
Is an unborn baby part of a woman's body? I don't think so. Some states have laws stating if an unborn baby is killed in a crime then the person committing the crime can be charged with murder. So an unborn baby one second before birth has no rights and can be killed but the exact moment it passes through the vagina then POOF it magically has rights. The lack of morals and respect for a human life with that type of thinking is disappointing.
Then I suggest you get a book on pregnancy . If the fetus is not part of the woman's body then WTF is it doing inside her !!????? Let's take it out, set it on a shelf and watch it grow and develop on it's own!!! OK? They're charged with manslaughter, not murder. You are grabbbing the Anti-Choice talking point about the UVVA which they do NOT read but spout off about as if there's some sort of "proof" of something in it. There isn't. The"" Unborn VICTIMS of Violence Act "" does NOT grant personhood to fetuses , it doesn't, it can't, it doesn't have the authority....It's the Unborn VICTIMS...that doesn't make fetuses legal persons.. IF fetuses were legal persons the UVVA wouldn't have been needed.. .it just adds to the punishment of someone killing a pregnant woman.
You wont change your mind, you are a prog. But for other readers: The Democrat party politicians and their followers platform is based on preferential victimization. Its policies shift based on personality and current conditions (Clinton commits adultery and worse and progs claim that's his personal life and should be independent of his political life; Trump gets elected, suddenly a 12 year old adultery is a disqulaifier). Religion is a pursuit to which a person assigns supreme importance and interest. Fanatics elevate it above fact and rational thought. "progressivism" is most certainly a religion, and its adherents are fanatics to the point of it being a cult. Abortionists for example, cannot tolerate any thought of any restriction to abortion, they cannot even discuss their own position in a rational and calm manner - look at this forum. Gun banners, the other plank of "progressivism", operate in the same manner as abortionists, they use emotion and propaganda and lies - look at this forum. And what happens to anyone who does not toe the line on LGBTQ? Rather than try to discuss and convert the person who disagrees, the progs try to eviscerate and destroy. Read this for examples you should recognize: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/10/taki-theodoracopulos/watch-your-mouth/ Read NY Times columnist Charles Blow article "Liberals, this is war" "https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/07/opinion/brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court.html
You asked a question, then kind of answered it. It's attached and reliant to the mother. Part of her body, no.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Then I suggest you get a book on pregnancy . If the fetus is not part of the woman's body then WTF is it doing inside her !!????? Let's take it out, set it on a shelf and watch it grow and develop on it's own!!! OK? . If it's attached inside her body it is part of her body. Are you saying her kidneys, heart, etc. are not part of her body!!??? They are, just like the fetus is. If the fetus is not part of her body she has every right to have it taken out...nobody should be forced to have something in their body that isn't part of it.
In one moment you argue it is part of her body, then the next it isn't. Regardless, an unborn baby isn't. It's a human life, not a parasite worm.
There's a Chinese story. One very respected and renowned scholar was talking to another junior scholar, several years younger than him, whom he was in acquaintance with and who looked up to him. "Do you want to know what I think of you?" asked the younger scholar. The senior scholar paused and looked at him. "I think you are a very brilliant and wise teacher." "Do you want to know what I think of you?" the other scholar replied. "Yes, tell me." "I think you're a piece of sh(*)t." They continued to walk on alongside the river in silence. When the senior scholar got home to his sister, he told her about what happened. "He said I was brilliant and wise, and then do you know what I said? I called him sh(*)t, so I won," he boasted. "No, you didn't" said the sister. "He saw noble things in you so that means he is noble inside. You could only see sh(*)t in him, so that means your inside is filled with sh(*)t."
