How can we stop the rockets from landing on Sderot, Israel?

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How can the rockets be stopped from landing on Sderot, Israel?

  1. a U.S. Military FEL...or FREE ELECTRON LASER system

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  2. a series of low cost reality plus semi-reality science fiction films

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  3. Israel must go back to her 1967 borders for starters....

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  4. God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land by Robert Mendelson

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  5. Poll the Bermigo Plan by Mr. Gordon Miller

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  6. Other.... please be specific in a reply.....

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK...I admit it.... this is a new one that I hadn't thought of before???????




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    Laser technology will be the key in the coming decades and israel is going to start trying it out soon
     
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    Which could explain a future bump in the price of silver since silver is used in laser technology?????
     
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    The crowning of a possible Moshiach ben Ephrayim would be one possible opening gambit in something like a game of chess aimed at stopping the rockets from landing on the streets or buildings of Sderot, Israel.



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ch-ben-ephrayim.587238/page-4#post-1072648083

    "Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?"


     
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    When people are attempting to accomplish something that is nearly impossible they should take a look at seriously outside the box ideas such as:



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    Actually...... discussion of a one state solution could be an important part of a gambit that could well lead to stopping the rockets from landing on Sderot or any other Israeli town or city.

    I would like to tie this in with :


    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land... this booklet is brilliant!



    I taught English in Quito, Ecuador in 2001 and 2002. My first gig as a teacher was at a little Christian school entitled La Escuela del Futuro and later on I taught at Universidad Technologica de Israel de Quito.

    Robert Mendelson's books have already been translated into Hebrew and Arabic and therefore could be exceptionally good tools to give Israeli English language students practice in side by side Hebrew to English or Arabic to English practice books.


     
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    This conflict, between the Palestinians and Israel, has nothing to do with religion.
     
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    Technically that is true.......

    but some brilliant people have managed to convince a significant percentage of Palestinians and Israelis that it is about religion........... even though this is really about land and houses and wealth and...........

    ........... is partly about a scheme set in motion by Russian President Andropov back during the 1970's!




    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-its-influence-on-mideast-terrorism.505610/

    Russia and its influence on Mideast terrorism...

    There is an ancient Islamic prediction for the "Last Hour" that can assist in an auspicious beginning to turning this whole confusing situation around .....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...raham-peace-accord-turn-deserts-green.578489/


     
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    But....... the coming together of Judaism, Christianity and Islam due to the influence of near death experiencers
    from each background could begin to address this whole mess in a way that is the most effective plan for peace between
    Israelis and Palestinians ever put forward?



    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.

    http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/


    One topic that ninety nine percent of all nine million Israelis can agree on is that illiteracy is a serious problem and the very fact that much of Mr. Robert Mendelson's writings have already been translated into both Hebrew as well as Arabic make his books a perfect English as a second language tool for instruction and practice.


    The fact that author Robert Mendelson accepts ZERO credit for his books and gives all credit to our Creator who gave him a near death experience back in 1992 gives his books a very special weight in the eyes of many readers.

    I would suggest the creation of a "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land film production kibbutz Ltd and / or cooperative Ltd" as well as a profit making company that donates a percentage of the revenue to one of the non profit organizations formed to get things started.



     
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    Gaza is an Israeli operated open air prison.

    There are NO humans that can accept a situation such as that.

    WE sure couldn't. We couldn't even tolerate not having representation on issues as trivial as taxes!!

    For US, that justified war.




    Why do we think other humans are ANY different???
     
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    Our war of independence had NOTHING AT ALL to do with religious differences.

    We went to war for very explicit reasons.

    And, the situation in Gaza embodies ALL those reasons - plus the fact that the people there are being kept in an open air PRISON.

    This idea that reconciling religious differences would solve the problem is just plain IDIOCY.

    We should know that, because WE LIVED IT.
     
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    What percentage of the situation that the Palestinian people find themselves in could be traced back to a policy decision made in 1972 by Yuri Andropov?

    I would guess that the mental, intellectual, spiritual prison that the Palestians are in is up to fifty percent the fault of Russia's Middle East policy...... and another twenty percent or so would be due to collaboration between their elected leadership with this Russian policy.

    Would you say that the percentages that I just gave are exaggerated?


    https://www.tldm.org/news9/russianinfluenceonmideast.htm

     
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    I don't know of ANY issue similar to this issue with Israel has EVER been solved by playing the blame game.

    Read our declaration of independence. It's just not a matter of blame.

    Trying to fob this issue off on the Russians does absolutely nothing than form an excuse for further fecklessness on our part.

    If we care about a solution, we have to address the actual issues.
     
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    I know of at least one project that would be win - win - win - win - win for Israelis, Jordanians and Palestinians.

    An online friend of mine named Sigmund Ivarsson promoted what he termed The Petra Project. I believe that this project could give Mr. Donald J. Trump as some sort of constitutional monarch in Israel an opening gambit that would be win - win - win - win - win - win for all Israelis whether they are Jews, Muslim, Christian or Atheists.

    This project would also be win - win - win - win for all Jordanians and all Palestinians. It is a nine meter wide tunnel going from near Tel Aviv to somewhere in the Jordan River Valley. As the tunnel goes down roughly 1200 feet it could perhaps be in the shape of an upside down menorah, branch into seven smaller tunnels..... and have up to twenty or more hydro-electric generation facilities along its length.

    Once the roughly one point five million cubic meters of sea water has arrived in the Jordan River Valley annually it can largely be desalinated and would boost agriculture in that entire area.

    So..... a Donald J. Trump volunteerism hour.... and / or volunteerism dollar and / or volunteerism shekel....... could be looked at as a "prop" in a proposed reality film series starring President Trump as himself.... and all nine million Israelis as themselves!

    So.... an unconditional Basic Minimum Income for life in a taxable currency with President Trump's face and signature on the note......
    could be used to largely finance and initiate what could become a truly massive project that increases economic activity in Israel and in all of her neighbouring nations.

    "Sigmund Ivarsson's Petra Project for Israel, Jordan and The Palestinians."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ch-ben-ephrayim.587238/page-5#post-1072672037

     
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    You're still TOTALLY missing the point.

    We did NOT hold our revolution due to people not being wealthy enough. England could NOT have stopped our revolution by paying us off in some way such as you now propose for the ME.

    Palestine is NOT demanding to be more profitable. Being more profitable would be great, as it always is. But, that is NOT why they will NOT EVER accept the situation as it is today.

    They are humans. Read our Declaration of Independence.

    It clearly lays out why WE went to war. And, the elements that are clearly laid out in that document are present in the extreme for those living in Gaza.

    We KNOW why there is a war there. We wrote the document on that.

    >>> That war isn't going to end without addressing the reasons that human beings go to war.
     
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    The following interview might begin to break through your rather dogmatic ideas on all of this.

    What she is doing will have a major effect over the coming decade or two.



    Palestinian Woman's Amazing Encounter with Jesus
     
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    It's far more likely (AND politically beneficial to a humanitarian future) that all the Jews will be converted.

    There are a tiny number of Jews compared to the size of Islam.

    And, THEY are the ones inclined to bulldoze the homes of Palestinians, steal their land and water rights, implement apartheid against Muslim citizens of Israel, and keep Palestinians trapped in the open air prison that is Gaza.

    It's Israel that denies Palestinians the exact same rights that America fought a war of independence to defend.

    I doubt that will happen though. Israel has totally lost its humanity. The active war they have waged against Gaza has continued for more than 20 years without Israel even being willing to TALK about it.

    I keep hoping that Christians will recognize the evil they support.

    But, Christians just keep singing:

    "Onward Christian Soldiers,
    Going as to war
    With the cross of Jesus
    Going on before
    ..."

    We slaughter in His name!
     
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    I do believe that will significantly depend on what those proposed "Jews" are converted to................

    or at least take a significant step toward understanding that group as well........

    I partly identify as a Gnostic Christian that to some degree at least would fit with the Messianic Jewish community of the first century........ (sort of)........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ination-for-nobel-prize-in-literature.542590/




    Near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. was shown Jesus / Yeshua teaching the following to his inner circle of disciples......


     
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    Religious beliefs are NOT a justification for the crimes of the state of Israel.

    And, I'd point out that your first sentence comes very close to a serious accusation against Judaism.

    Let's remember that international law states that increasing ones country through war is NOT acceptable. Plus, when borders change, ALL those living within those borders are secure in their full property rights and become full citizens of the country in which they now find themselves.

    Even in these most fundamental ways, even when NO humanitarian atrocities are considered, Israel is breaking international law to which they are signatories.
     
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    My thesis is that there is ultimately zero real contradiction between the near death experience account of near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai, (I already completed twenty five of his online courses)...... with the near death experience account of former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava, (but I admit it.... this idea will be profoundly offensive to a high percentage of Israelis and a high percentage of Americans and Canadians)?!


    In my opinion at this moment in time I consider that Rabbi Alon Anava is probably more like the real historical John the Baptist and / or the real historical Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus than any Christian or Jewish scholar on earth........... his NDE corresponds with Matthew chapter four on many levels...... and his teachings since his NDE...... in my opinion.... fit amazingly well with Matthew chapters five, six and seven.

    https://www.alonanava.com/

    I want to thank you for being guided by the Holy Spirit / Ruach ha Kodesh more than you tend to imagine.......

    because your question on this topic was timed perfectly!!!!!!
     
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    The fact that two individuals have the same dreams concerning some topic is not even SLIGHTLY surprising.

    Your two individuals share gigantic context - a religion, an era in history, a culture, training/education (formal or not), interest in the same problems of religion and politics, etc. Who knows what all else they share? They could share life experiences, similar locations of residence, etc., etc., etc.

    Having similar dreams on a topic relevant to all that context hits me as nearly a certainty.

    Basing a conclusion concerning the supernatural on the similarity of their dreams hits me as being as far from logical as one could possibly get.
     
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    Dismantle the apartheid state and let Palestinians return to their native land.

    That's how.
     
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    Have you considered just slaughtering all those within the borders of Gaza?

    As for the long run, what's beneficial about decades of Israel locking in the residents of Gaza and then picking them off like fish in a barrel?
     
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    REF: How can we stop the rockets from landing on Sderot, Israel?
    SUBTOPIC: Solution Critique
    ⁜→ WillReadmore, et al,

    This is slightly Off-Topic,

    BLUF: Yeah! Both of the solutions are non-starters. AND. There is no such thing (really) as 1967 Borders.

    (COMMENT)

    In 1967, the Armistice Lines of the 1949 Armistice Agreements, relative to the 1948 War of Independence, were still in play. Under the Customary International understandings of that period, the Arab League States (and as a consequence the Arab Palestinians) had a duty NOT to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines.

    In March 1979, the Government of the Arab Republic of Egypt and the Government of the State of Israel entered into a Treaty of Peace. By a prior agreement, the Armistice Lines pertaining to Egyptian held Gaza Stript was to remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved. (Article XII(2) Armistice Agreement).

    Similarly, in October 1994 the Governments of Jordan-Israel signed a Peace Treaty. By a prior agreement, the Armistice Lines pertaining to Jordanian territory West of the Jordan River was to remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved. (Article XII(2) Armistice Agreement).​

    There was never an Agreement made with the Arab Palestinians because there was never a representative voice for the Arab Palestinian until the Seventh Arab League Summit Conference (October 1974) adopted the Resolution on Palestine in which it was established that the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), was to be the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated. But there was still no Declaration of Independence for the Government of Palestine. The PLO Declaration of Independence did not come about until November 1988. But by then, the Kingdome of Jord had already abandoned (cut all ties in July 1988) its territorial holdings West of the Jordan River. This effectively left the Israelis, already in place, as the de facto Government.

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    You will take notice that the Under-Secretary-General for Legal Affairs made a rather interesting official determination. "Palestine was not identified as a "State" or a "Country" nor could its authorities be identified as a government."

    The Arab Palestinians are clearly NOT the victims in the struggle.

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    Most Respectfully,
    R
     

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