How 'christian' of christian clerics in Uganda

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  1. rstones199

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    Official: Uganda to pass anti-gay bill this year

    This is the part that really gets me:

    A "a Christmas gift"? Really?

    The Christian Taliban at play here. To ask for a bill that puts other human beings to death as "a Christmas gift", is barbaric. Islam is not a religion of peace, and christianity certainly is not either!
     
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    We really should leave this aid work up to secular groups like Oxfam.

    The evangelicals are apparently too insane to get the job done without turning other people into psychos.
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Ugandan Christian Taliban is controlled by American religious nutcases. The Americans are trying to get the Ugandans to slaughter nonconformists.
     
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    These ugly lies about Africans make you look like a racist. Some early versions of the bill would have instituted the death penalty for homosexuals who raped children and those who spread death by infecting others with AIDS.
     
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    Hmmmm.... How loving.

    Logic like that is why I encourage my gay brother to obtain a CCW permit.
     
  7. Serfin' USA

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    ...except the fact that the law being discussed originally advocated death for all homosexuals. Similar laws are found in parts of the Middle East as well, so it's not just an African thing.

    In general, it's a religious fanatic thing, but I'm sure you know all about that.
     
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    Evidence?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Read the article.

    Problem solved.
     
  10. rstones199

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    Amazing how easily that is solved isnt?
     
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    That it is.
     
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    if you kill heterosexual child rapists and hetero sexual transmitters of aids then i guess that’s at least fair
    but making homosexuality illegal that’s just kind of evil
     
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    They always seem to like using "the children" as their excuse for acting like this, too. It really doesn't get more ludicrous or disgusting than that.
     
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    Hasn't anyone told the Pope `bout this goin' on??...
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    Catholic Church linked to Uganda child labour
    5 January 2016 - During his November visit to Africa, the continent which now counts nearly 200m Roman Catholics, Pope Francis said that children were some of the greatest victims of Africa's historical exploitation by other powers. He also urged young Africans to resist corruption. But should the Vatican be doing more to put its own house in order? A BBC investigation has uncovered evidence that church land in Uganda is being used for child labour.
     
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    will you be wanting uganda to accept transgender marriage next? where do your demands end ?
     
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    new civilizations like europe like gay relations but advanced civilzations in africa and asia dont, that may be a clue.
     
  17. Serfin' USA

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    Most African cultures didn't have a problem with homosexuality before Christianity and Islam were introduced.

    East Asia still doesn't have much of a problem with it.

    In general, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the main religions of the world that have problems with homosexuality. Of course, all 3 originated in the Middle East, so historically, it shows that most of the world didn't start out having problems with gay people.

    Thankfully, most forms of Judaism are ok with gay people now. Much of the Christian world is starting to be more tolerant of gay people as well. The Islamic world still has a lot of room for improvement on this, however.
     
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    It's not Uganda's fault so much as it is the influence of certain radical evangelicals that have turned Uganda and many other African cultures against gay people. As far as transgender rights and gay rights go, just allowing both groups to live in peace would be a good starting point.
     
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    Slippery slope.

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    Absolutely not but this is where we clash of course.
     
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    They are indeed EXTREMELY Christian....they are following the texts more piously, more closely, more honestly, than the "moderate" Christians are. They believe the bible is honest, and take it at it's word. Unlike the "moderates" they don't deviate from it just because the bible is immoral. They are the true believers. Jesus never (he's had 2000 years!) spoke up for gay rights, even though the main book of all time about him says to kill them in 2 verses and says they don't get into his "heaven" (in Romans). So clearly Jesus approves of persecution of gays.....or else he'd have spoken up, of course (well, that is if he's a caring person and not a complete prick.)

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    So religion is a bad thing, obviously. It brings immorality, and we are seeing that today in Uganda, with ISIS, with the Jew/Muslim wars, etc.

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    Just fairness, that's all we want, just fairness.
    Too bad Jesus isn't fair or he'd come down today (can't he do that, is he not all-powerful like the bible says??) and tell them that hatred of innocent people (gays) is dead wrong. Too bad Jesus isn't fair.
     
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    Well, they had their own religions before Christianity and Islam.

    More than anything, dogma is often what gets people killed. As Christopher Hitchens once put it, religion is one of the few things that can make a good person do something evil. More specifically, that involves certain dogmas in certain religions.
     
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    Catholic priests also like using "the children" for other things, as well. Too bad Jesus doesn't warn each priest, before each commits those acts, that it's wrong. Jesus is fine with seeing those children raped, ob-viously. As they scream out his name for him to help them, he just sits on his hands. That SOB! Just because Jesus doesn't does not mean that he shouldn't. He should.

    Let's raise our standards to expect that an all-knowing, all-loving entity do more than Jesus does.
     
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    This comes as a result of some American Christians going to Uganda and lecturing them.. If I can pull up the details, I will.
     
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    And they THOUGHT they had the right religion.....just like Christians and Muslims think they have the right religion.

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    Seriously, I've read that too. Sounds like those American Christians are immoral (well, and pious, as the bible does say to kill gays in multiple places since Jesus was too immoral to influence them to not.)
     
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    Yep. But as time goes by, some religions die off while others replace them.

    So yeah, whatever religion someone happens to follow is largely a matter of where and when they were born.
     

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