How 'christian' of christian clerics in Uganda

Life isnt fair bro

 

So this barbarity is not an "African thing", but rather a "Christian thing". I blame Jesus.

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But an all-powerful, all-loving, all-caring magic man in the sky could make it more fair. Too bad he's not real, though, bro.

 

Christianity and judaism are african philosophies so yes, its an african thing.

 

Scott Lively and some other American Evangelicals lobbied hard for these anti-homosexual laws in Uganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lively

 

Um... Your geography is a bit off.

 

It's that Jesus has them too FEARFUL, TOO SCARED (of his brutal torture in the lake of fire) to do the right and moral thing. Shame on you, Jesus. I believe in them, if Jesus was not a fear-monger, I'm sure they do the morally right thing and not persecute innocent people (gays).....but the bible says to, and Jesus didn't speak up, so I guess if they want to avoid Jesus' Auschwitz (lake of fire) they'd better hate gays like Jesus did.

 

Lively has called for the criminalization of "the public advocacy of homosexuality" as far back as 2007.[7][8] He gave "a series of talks" to Ugandans and met with Ugandan lawmakers immediately before anti-gay legislation in Uganda was drafted.[9] He appeared in Russian television channel Russia-1's documentary titled Sodom in September 2014.[10]

He has been interviewed in radio and television about his involvement in the ex-gay movement and his opposition to LGBT advocacy. According to a January 2011 profile, Lively "has not changed his view that gays are 'agents of America's moral decline,' but he has refocused his approach to fit his parishioners in Springfield, Massachusetts", and "is toning down his antigay rhetoric and shifting his focus to helping the downtrodden."[citation needed]

On August 14, 2013, an American federal judge ruled that the case against Scott Lively, by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG), a Uganda-based coalition of LGBT rights and advocacy groups, can move forward against him. This is a first-of-its-kind case in which the lawsuit alleges that Lively's actions over the past decade, in collaboration with some Ugandan government officials and Ugandan religious leaders, are responsible for depriving LGBT Ugandans of their fundamental human rights based solely on their identity, which the lawsuits alleges falls under the definition of persecution under international law and is a crime against humanity. This effort resulted in the introduction of an Anti-Homosexuality Bill in Uganda, which Lively allegedly helped engineer.[11][12][13]

Lively denounced the "global warming doctrine" as "a scheme by transnational Marxist elites to establish a system for global taxation and redistribution of wealth."[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lively

 

So can we agree Margot that any belief system (say like Islam as well) that says to hate gays is not from god because hating innocent people is certainly not what's best for the world? Can we?

 

Lively is pretty crazy. I think his mind was warped by living as a homeless person for a while.

 

Can we agree that killing gays is barbaric, and any religion that teaches that in its texts is barbaric? As a Modern Secular Humanist I love everybody, so I'd like to think I'm too moral to kill gays or endorse texts that do as well. What about you?

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You seem to think that "facts" and "geography" are important to people that believe in a talking snake and a talking donkey. No, that's not really how it works, bro.

 

so is yours, and your history.

 

Or by reading a book where the hero's dad committed genocide, yes, genocide, against innocent animals even ("the flood"), and who is so immoral that in 2000 years he's never condemned his Hitler-like genocidal father.

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I rarely find Serfin to be wrong.

Oh sure, he's can't spell obviously, but he's rarely wrong.

 

Why would i agree with your subjective morality when you cant even accept the fact that hebrews and christians were originally african?

 

Actually, it came as a result of the bible being immoral to begin with, and Christians, in the last 2000 years, not having the moral spine to remove the parts of their "best moral book of all time" that says to slaughter gays in multiple verses. A book of hatred, to be sure.

 

Well, he never actually made an assertion, just naysaying.

 

How so? Judaism didn't start in Africa. Neither did Christianity or Islam. All of them spread there, of course, but they aren't African in origin.

Now, as with any society, elements of local culture melded with their versions of Christianity and Islam. How Christianity is practiced in Uganda is a bit different from in say... Alabama.

And it is true that certain African figures influenced the development of Christianity and Islam.

 

You can't agree that killing gays is barbaric. That's your right. I'm glad you have that freedom. Just realize that moving to Modern Secular Humanism would be a moral step UP, since we strongly condemn Bible/God/Jesus for being ok with killing innocent people. We care about humanity to let that go unchallenged. Jesus, well, uh, not so much. He remains silent...silent on the Holocaust....silent on killing gays....in fact he's been as silent as BIGFOOT for the last 2000 years....so I left him. Best thing I ever did.

 

Christianity began in africa and thete was no such thing as a hebrew until he entered egypt.

 

Um, maybe because it's the morally right thing to do, the fair thing to do, what's best for the world and all that. Just sayin'.

 

No man or women is innocent

 

American evangelicals like Scott Lively promoted killing gays in Uganda... The guy is a real creep.. He ran for governor and washed out so he became a preacher.. Scoundrels all.

 

Denying facts is moral?

 

They were just an unaffiliated Canaanite tribe.. landless and lawless.. called Abiru or Habiru before they went to Egypt.. They weren't African.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language

Hebrews originated just north/west of Africa. The African continent does not extend into that area.

As for Christianity, Egypt certainly had a significant influence on the development of this religion, but it was started by foreign influences there. Christians had a diaspora in the very beginning that originated from the same area that Judaism was from.

 

Hebrews couldn't have originated outside of Africa, if they did they wouldn't be Hebrew , that's what the name means. Everything points to Egypt when discussing Christianity origins. The only reason you are ignoring this is because you will have to overcome the obstacle of "anti african" mind state, a most abhorrent and destructive ideology I'm sure you are familiar with huh. I think they call it racism today.