How come every time a democrat is elected my standard of living goes down?

How come every time a democrat is elected my standard of living goes down? I have never made a lot of money and I am in the class of people they claim to be trying to help. The percentage of taxes always goes up. It may not be income tax but if you add the total taxes paid is always on the increase. I pay 9% in sales tax alone. Plus tire tax, phone tax, property tax, gas tax, and many taxes on a multitude of other things....how is this helping me?

 

it doesn't help when they are in office..it has been that why for the last 40 years...they do nothing to help the middle class or the poor..every time they are in office we end up with more poor people...why do people not see this?..why do they keep voting for the leaders who hurt them the most?..i don't get it..there must really be a lot of brain dead people in this country

 

Although I don't know what a "tire tax" pays for, I know that most taxes we pay are for things we need and want. Most of these taxes are not really very burdensome if you're making enough money.
The more you make, the less they effect your life. But what we see in our society is a thinning of the middle class. More and more people are making a lot of money, but more and more people are also becoming poor or poorer.

We need to have a national conversation with ourselves about this and do everything we can to reverse this trend.

 

That was my point. I never wanted much from the government. I just wanted them to leave me alone. Billions of tax dollars are wasted and never help anyone that needed it. And that is the real shame.

 

They were on a mission to add 10 trillion to the debt in 8 years and they didnt think having something significant to show for it was a prerequisite.

 

why work so hard if you are only going to complain about it. you are not liberal enough to not feel exploited by Capitalism, yet.

you can go on welfare and not work, if you don't want to have to work hard and pay taxes for the "privilege" of working hard for your money.

 

How do you know who I am and how hard I work? I have something called self respect. If not for being repremanded for insults i would tell you to kiss my....

 

How has you standard of living gone down? What level of taxes are you personally comfortable with paying? What are the negatives of lowering taxes or do you see no negatives?

 

Its not about helping you, its about growing the state and paying for their pet social projects.

Some dems never figure this out.

 

The problem with such arguments is that nobody is ever really 'in power.' A Democrat may hold the Presidency while one or both houses are Republican, for instance. State governments and local governments are also more critical to your standard of living than most people realize. Even there you will likely have a Republican legislature and a Democratic city government.

They will all be pointing the finger and blaming each other for the ways things are. And people will blame who they choose to blame based on nothing more than anger and bias.

The bottom line is this. Every society gets the government it deserves. You (the people) have chosen to elect a divided government time after time - therefore you must live with a divided responsibility and no clear indication of who's responsible for what.

 

Another good question is, why do wealthy business owners donate millions to democrats? Maybe dems policies dont result in what they say they do.

 

There are places where democrats control state and local govt, as well as the majority of federal representation. And they are crap holes.

Where democrats run things, they are run poorly.

 

Almost completely, dem policy stances provide a competitive advantage for the established competitor.

 

I would say the reducing of the middle class, food stamp roll exploding and a much higher wealth disparity are significant results.

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Funny how capitalist need rent seeking privilege from the government before they can truly exploit anyone.

 

Dear Seth, spoken like a true government democrat. "Conversation" is a concept term, but it doesn't bring about outcomes. I think you already conceive that the middle class is unhappy with the financial/social pressure put upon them by elites to keep the world right-side-up, while the elites throw dollars over their shoulders and continue on in corruption.

What I hear cjm expressing is the realization of an appallingly LOW STANDARD embraced by current neo-libs. I work in government, and am aghast at the monetary waste in well-meaning programs. I'm dismayed at the government 40-hour-weeks of nothing but "conversations" and recommendations. I am horrified at the democrats who stand behind obviously corrupt (even if not indicted) Hillary and her chosen VP. May as well vote for a drug-pusher and a pimp!

I am a classic liberal who can find NOTHING in common with the abject standards embraced by the neo-libs of this election cycle.

 

I had a good job in a foundry. It was hot, hard work with long hours but i made good money. That job went to China. I got another job that paid much less...because of lack of experience and my standard of living went down. My income taxes fell but all other taxes stayed the same or rose. It is not so much tax I pay but what the result is. Like i said my roads suck and any business.... just about...makes me travel more miles and spend more time because most government offices have been closed in my county. The government can't seem to live within a budget. And my State and Federal government gets deeper in debt. Should they not be held responsible for what they do with my tax dollars? That includes both parties. When a government official gets more money in "gifts" than the average person makes in a year it is a shame and a disgrace.

 

So here's my proposal.

Let's give the blowhards their way. I'm calling on voters to give this theory an empirical test. The Democrat Party currently sucks anyway, so all Democrats should stay home on election day.

Let the GOP take over the Presidency, both houses, and the state legislatures and governorships. Let them control the cities. It has to be complete control, so nobody can ever shift the responsibility.

And it has to be a fair test, so give them a good run for their money - four years...heck, let's make it eight.

I would totally be in favor of this. Not joking at all, not even a little.

Just so we could have, just for once, the ability to lay the responsibility where it actually should be.

 

And this happens only under a democrat with no republican being also responsible at any level of government? I am for holding politicians responsible but I am against bias that ignores when a favored side does the same thing, remember you said in the OP "How come every time a democrat is elected my standard of living goes down?"

 

I would support that too-but democrats would never support it.

They can't support any ideological diversity-and if it worked-it would be a liability.

Perhaps a handful of test cases would be appropriate-but knowing dems, they wouldn't work with the republicans in charge very well (talking about in appointed positions, etc).

 

Because dems produce ghetto's.

 

And this answers my previous questions how? Do you have source citation that supports the above claim?

 

Just google democratic controlled cities.

 

It is illogical by my measure of logic to make a claim then expect others to source it. I want the specific data that you have personally vetted as being objective so we can be in the same page. If you cannot or will not defend your claims by producing source citation then I will move on to debate those who can. Like my signature says "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens

 

Do what you like...could care less if you are so blinded by partisanship.

 

Really? So why is it that the economy statistically does better when there is a Democratic POTUS in the White House and that's an easily proven fact. Must be some shortcoming that you and the OP share and you are trying to lay blame elsewhere...so much for the old right wing personal responsibility bull (*)(*)(*)(*). You do know that Congress holds the purse strings and that the Congress has been Republican controlled, hence, the do nothing Congress with the lowest approval ratings in history who did everything to obstruct and delay programs and improvements such as rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure which is where many jobs would be created. Oh and let's not forget the POS trickle down voodoo guy that started the destruction of the middle class. Would you like a little refresher course in where the economy was in 2008 when Dubya rode off into the sunset? The entire country would look like Kansas does now if right wingers had their way and all states had governors like Sam Brownback. You rwnj's are a hoot!