How did the U.S. become the epicenter of the pandemic?

Doesn't look like we were taking the threat seriously.

 

Biden wasn't in charge.

 

We didn't use the WHO test. Trump screwed up.

 

Three years into his Presidency ... he's supposed to have the training wheels off by then.

 

Trump was conned by XI because he was eager to be duped, back when he was falsely claiming he had COVID-19 "under control."

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus.
The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency.
“t will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People,
I want to thank President Xi!”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...chinese-governments-most-useful-idiot/608638/

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Trump lauds Chinese leader Xi amid coronavirus panic
February 7, 2020
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/7/donald-trump-lauds-chinese-leader-xi-jinping-amid-/


When Trump finally realized he had been set up, he became very pissy and started calling COVID-19 the Chinese virus.

 

Wait, say as little as possible, and then be in a position to second guess.

Serious enforcement of social distancing, testing, testing, tracing contacts. Supervised isolation of people entering the country. Help for people isolating to get things they need. Improvement of COVID-19 benefit programs through employers. Improved support for small business.

 

The Orange Man is bad, and America is the epicenter. The rest of the world is doing just peachy.

 

Testing has helped in downtown Vancouver in Canada with a density as great as NYC.

But when numbers of new infections drop, resuming intensive testing will be important.

Business--mostly the right--aren't interested in trading $20/hour service sector jobs for the $2/hour manufacturing jobs we shipped overseas. Blaming the left who have long fought to save low skill, high wage manufacturing jobs is a bit much.

In any event, it's long past the day when we can resort to protectionist policies. Foreigners will retaliate over tariffs and that will make it difficult for us to sell overseas to get the foreign exchange we need to buy raw materials.

I know. Trump is cynically pandering, trolling for future votes. Manufacturing jobs that do come back are high skill jobs where there is a lot of value added, not the low skill jobs that were associated with high pay.

"Simmer down?" An interesting comment on your part when projections are we'll run out of ventilators in many cities. Sounds Trumpian.

Sure, ever thus. And Trump claims credit for courageous efforts by health care workers. De Blasio told people it was okay to go to the movies long after anyone with any sense would sit near people in a movie theater.

But Trump is entirely blameworthy for not preparing soon enough to get PPE produced, enough respirators, and sending mixed signals about the seriousness of COVID-19.

Mardi Gras should have been cancelled. She should have made the decision on her own. People would have been pissed off, but even dotards would be thinking she did the right thing now.

 

Too bad the ventilator stockpile ball got dropped on Joe Biden's watch.

But now it's Trump's fault for not fixing in three weeks the mess it took Obama years to make, right?

 

An ad hominem is replacing an argument with a personal attack. I didn't omit an argument, in fact I said epicenter isn't the correct term. Whether you know the definition or not is irrelevant. The United States is not the source of COVID-19, and infections aren't spreading outward from the United States.

 

Yeah, I noticed that I still have eight of them left over (I enjoy making things even though I could easily hire someone). Dirt cheap, really.

 

Neither is Mike Pence, but he certainly has a Big role in working to contain this Coronavirus epidemic. Apparently Pence is at least a THOUSAND! times more the Vice President Biden was.

 

Vancouver BC doesn't even have CLOSE! to the density of New York, Vancouver Population is around 675,000 and New York City is 8.5 Million and has at least twice the Population per Mile Density. I've been to Vancouver BC many times and it isn't even close to New York.

 

Do you know why we didn't? And can you cite how the president might have been responsible for not using the test? It sounds so scandalous until you know the underlying facts, but seems you don't.

 

Start with police, but troops if need be. We're at the point where the American people are not going to put up with a------s doing what they want.

People know why now and I believe will support it.

Let me come at this another way.

Anti-vaxxers today get exemptions from schools for their kids. Now, let's say we get a vaccine for the coronavirus and have an anti-body test. Do you think people are going to put up with anti-vaxxers enroling their kids in school without proof the kid had COVID-19 or a vaccination? I don't. The kid will get the vaccination or home school. I don't think the teachers' union would put up with it, either.

I won't vote for a pol who fails to act and especially not one who points the finger at others for what was in their power to do.

 

Part of Vancouver has incredible density.



I live in the Vancouver area and have been to NYC many times. The area you see is as dense as NYC. There are other parts of Vancouver that have single-family homes.

The point ... Vancouver has, with testing, been able to keep COVID-19 to a low roar and this with a large poor population.



Better to spend the winter in Vancouver than Toronto.

De Blasio kept the schools open far longer than he should have.

 

Yes.

I suggested neither, of course.

If you wish to quibble with pronouncements of the World Health Organization and their application of the word "epicenter", I'm certain that it will take your criticism with all the respect it deserves.

Let us review Trump's documented statements:

A sample of Trump's high-minded statesmanship that has his worshippers so smitten:

“I just received a call from @VP Mike Pence, thanking Washington state for our efforts to combat the coronavirus,” Governor Inslee tweeted.
“I told him our work would be more successful if the Trump administration stuck to the science and told the truth.”
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Sticking to the science and the truth would appear to be sound advice, an eminently meritorious recommendation, yet hypersensitive Trump resorted to his signature pissy gutter sniping:

“I told Mike not to be complimentary of that governor
because that governor is a snake!”
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I would suggest that such a display of lowlife animus is inappropriate, but that would cause some fanatics to become hysterical.

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Don't know, one way or the other. I never much cared for Biden, but then I'm not a big fan of anyone stupid enough to think they can turn gays straight.

 

Well! Vancouver BC has a Population Density of around 13,000 per sq mile, New York is 26,000 per sq mile, so it's still not even a close comparison There are other Large US Cities larger then Vancouver BC that aren't close to what New York is dealing with, but New York has an Incredibly dense population and is why the Outbreak there is so bad. It's also a Liberal Sanctuary City Hell Hole, so that doesn't Help.

 

Trump is a petty jerk.

 

Seriously? Those are some of the biggest cities in America. New York City is the unofficial capital and a major international hub. It literally has nothing to do with what political party you associate those cities with. A VIRUS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR POLITICS.

Blaming the current epidemic in this country on Trump is stupidity. Blaming it on the Democrats, even subtly as you just did, is stupidity. Trump made the right decision to stop travel to China, but then he stopped doing anything for over a month. And during that time he made multiple comments that downplayed the concern over the virus to the point that when it did start ramping up here, a lot of folks thought it was just the media and the Democrats trying to ruin Trump's economy. Trump couldn't have stopped the virus even if he had wanted to meaning ultimately this isn't something you can give him the blame for. But after this thing runs it's course and the death toll is known, as well as the economic cost, all those tweets and comments where he tried to downplay everything and blame the concern on the media and the Democrats will be sitting there on the internet for all to see for all of human time. If he'd taken it seriously from the start, and been telling his followers that they should too, the numbers could potentially be lower right now.

But they'll still be high no matter what. I can blame Trump for doing his usual shtick(and hope that he learned a lesson from it this time around), but I don't blame him for the virus being here.

 

But the area in the first picture is as dense as NYC and Vancouver has so far been able to suppress the virus.

See above about Vancouver density in what they call the "West End." It was possible to suppress the coronavirus in NYC and they didn't. Hell, De Blasio kept the public schools open. What a moron!

Then Southern cities have a lot of poor people. That doesn't help, either. (No, I'm not a fan off illegal immigration.)

 

Vancouver is an amazing city, but you really need to get a handle on the homeless thing. It's just ridiculous.