How do you feel about all these harrassment claims?

It's serious! Powerful people are getting fired, and ruined! There seems to be contreversy over the incidents happening 10-20 years ago and not presently. Should that matter? Are people being fired to fast just from claims? I think folks who harrass should get in trouble. But I am asking what others feel about this trend.

 

What goes around, comes around. Given enough time, this will turn on even those who believe they are righteous, today. It may not be about the same subject, but there will be something. You can't point a finger without having three pointing back at yourself.

 

Are you saying that the ones claiming harrassment will one day get in trouble for something? Maybe I'm reading this wrong. Not judging just trying to be clear with what you're saying.

 

I believe the Culture War the forces now controlling the left have launched will leave many "bodies", both guilty and innocent, in it's wake.

IMO, "Identity Politics", and "Social Justice" are subjective by nature, and do not require a foundation in truth, but simply a belief that if one doesn't jump when the whistle is blown, they too will be subject to scorn and destruction.

 

Interesting. You don't think there is truth in the claims?

 

Well this time and this date we need to see fools like Franken resign.

 

Maybe that's why they are so strict about getting folks in trouble now. These monsters just stay in power and won't leave.

 

I wrote there will be many bodies, both guilty and innocent. So, yes, I think there is truth. I also think there are lies.

 

I see what you are saying. Yeah. If folks are lieing then they deserve to get theirs. The ones who did harrass they deserve to get theirs. Do you feel time has anything to do with stuff? The fact that these things were from 10-20 years ago?

 

This is a modern day version of the Salem Witch Trials. Mass hysteria on a national scale where the accusation is enough to convict.

 

There cannot be a wholesale change in mating habits, without laying down clear rules for conduct. And this includes wholesale changes to womens behavior. The hooters girl, or femme fetale, must be chastised, and driven from decency, and women MUST take some responsibility for courtship and pursuit, or we will cease to be a species.

This is all a two way street. And we are in new territory.

Unfortunately, to gain PARTISAN advantage, the right wingers are making no distinction between goof, harass, assault, rape. All are labeled sexual predator. This is INSANE.

 

You don't think there is validity to any of the claims? Maybe they know more than the public knows.

 

You don't think the things the accused did are against current mating rituals?

 

I think time allows many people to make accusations that are difficult to verify. And they bank on that. I also think circumstances have allowed people to finally speak up, regardless how much time has passed.

My greatest concern is that this type of allegation is like throwing a grenade into a crowd to take out a single bad guy. How does an innocent person defend against such an attack, when people are convicting based on accusation?

I'm disgusted by people who use power and position to threaten and abuse others. I also think people made decisions to allow such people to thrive, because they decided the benefits outweighed the disgrace. Does that mean they shouldn't complain now? That's a difficult question to answer.

 

All of them? Really? After years and years? Did you see Uma Thurman's claims yesterday? She is cozying up with Weinstein, yet starred in 6 of his movies. Then there is Lis Wiehl stating that she was in a "non-consensual" sexual relationship with Bill O'Reilly for years. How does that work?

 

What is insane if that we're looking at the end product of liberalism.

 

It's definetly something to think about.

 

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. I'm just asking.

 

There are only four possible scenarios. 1) The charges are true. 2) The charges are partially true but the woman had at least some culpability. 3) The charges are exaggerated. 4) The charges are false.

 

I want to just say that #1 has never been acted on until recently. So the fact that it's new shouldn't make it less credible. #1 deserves as much time to be acted on as the other scenarios.

 

Why? It IS in most cases he said she said and is not provable. Much of it if pure money seeking. If you have a complaint act upon it immediately or you have no case.

 

It's also he said she said if the man denies it. Why is it ok that the mans word was taken as gospel all this time? And what do you think about women not having a voice to speak up until now?

 

Victimhood can become a cult, and that is where this has either gone, or is in risk of going.

It seems to me many people are desperate to belong to something. In some cases they are required to belong to something, or risk being ostracized - The darkness of social media is a perfect example of this.

 

I think that there are so many women that got taken advantage of that they had to do something. We all know men who have done things and got away with it.

 

I think we will become desentisized in time. A constant onslaught of people making accusations 10-30-40 years after the event, in front of an impending election or during a convenient time of mob rule serves to desensitize. We look at that scenerio and decide based on the information at hand.

But then you look at Taylor Swift--who took action quickly--and she was sued when the guy that grabbed her butt lost his job. She had the money to defend herself, but not everyone does. Some of these women who had incidents with Weinstein and affluent people were surely intimidated.

What I do think....is that this type of butt grabbing, sexual harrassment, using of women and women using men---isn't common in the world of the typical American. Its a sickness within the liberal world.