How do you logically justify owning a gun for self defense?

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  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Some Jurisdictions still require proof of "Need" before issuing Concealed Carry.
    Irritated NYPD Detectives can sometimes be petulant with those wanting to acquire a permit, or during an Investigation related to the application process.
     
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    a government that would jail a citizen for keeping a gun in their home in a way that the government doesn't approve is a rogue government that should be disrespected and removed if possible
     
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    an bureaucrat that denies someone a permit carry for arbitrary reasons should be subject to a BIVENS lawsuit and personally LIABLE in an amount of say 50,000 dollars to someone denied. May issue is an affront to a free society
     
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    Then there is
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...a-concealed-carry-essay-requirement-revealed/
    Reminds me of the once requirement of having to to pass a literacy test to vote to filter minorities and undesirables from excercizing the right to voting.
    Lowell's requirement leaves massive room for descetionary denial and abuse of a right.
     
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    the scum bag politicians who imposed that crap should be stripped of being guarded by armed security. If I were Lord and master, they would be charged with treason and jailed accordingly and prevented from ever holding any public office.
     
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    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    How do you justify telling people they cant defend themselves?
     
  7. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    My advice can save lives so I think I am fully justified in giving it.
     
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    Other than your belief, why should anyone else believe your claim?
     
  9. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    Please explain how does your advice save lives,
    Because I do NOT recall any such advice or statistics, while attending any Law Enforcement classes I attended.

    Statistics are quoted, but never any citations supporting those statistics.
     
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    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    "How do you logically justify owning a gun for self defense?"

    The way I justify owning a Gun, if not for a Gun, I would have been killed by my attacker(s).





     
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    Coming in late here, but I'll bet that if you were in a hostage situation you'd be pleased to see some Joe Bloggs arrive at the scene who's in possession of a firearm? Having said that, if you're an American perhaps you ought to get used to the idea of possibly, or more likely probably, being in exactly that position in the foreseeable future? We in the UK have just had a dose of what's to come, as you'll undoubtedly know by now.
     
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    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

    C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
     
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    According to the rabidly anti-gun VPC, firearms are used in self-defense 2x more often than to kill, and almost 8x more often than to commit murder.
     

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