How do you measure firepower? How much is too much?

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  1. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    Gun control efforts have been focused on AR's for some time even though there are shotguns and pistols that deal more damage than an AR does. Mini-14's aren't usually scorned by the gun control crowd like AR's, yet it uses the very same ammo AR's do, at the same rate of fire as AR's.

    It would be easier to believe Gun Control when they say it's about saving lives if they were focused on the firearms that are being used in the majority of homicides.

    Why focus on AR's when pistols are used more often? Real question, no snark.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    1) they already lost handguns in Heller
    2) people who own AR 15s tend to be more likely gun rights advocates and thus more likely, the political enemies of gun banners
    3) AR 15s are ideal for use against rioting mobs and mass home invasions. Many gun banners identify with rioting looters
    4) there is an attitude-among gun banners-that those who own "assault weapons" are less trusting of government and thus gun banners want to punish those people
     
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    No such thing as too much firepower...
     
  4. dharbert

    dharbert Well-Known Member

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    Gun grabbers who want to ban AR--15's have obviously never seen a 12 gauge auto with flechettes and dragonsbreath in action....
     
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    If they were worried about firepower, they would be banning .50 cal and .338 Lapua rifles that will take your head clean off your shoulders at 1,000 yards....
     
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    20,000,000 AR15s in the US
    Over the last 40 years, 16 of them were used to murder 266 peopl ein mass shootings
    That,s 0.4 rifles per year, used to kill 6.65 people.
    Our of 20,000,000 guns.

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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will not recieve a logical answer to this question, because the only one that exists is: pistol ban does not have the support to pass legislation, and the goal is to just restrict as much as possible, not to make any real difference.
     
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    I feel like most discussions on guns boil down to it's just a bunch of nerds who are upset that high school bullies are telling them that their nerdom is stupid and doom and nobody is going to invite them out to prom. Just saying but that's how I read most arguments about guns.
     
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    Most anti gun posts seem to come from the former kids who hid behind the teachers' skirts and ratted out the other kids.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    those are the ones that think they need a AR-15 to be safe when going to the grocery store

    funny thing is, those are the same ones that say they don't need a mask, cause they have faith in God to protect them

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    Probably. They’re the ones who grew up understanding how to cope with fear in an uncertain world. A person doesn’t have to be scared all the time of something bad happening and can live a good life knowing that acts of violence are in of themselves rare.
     
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    one of the biggest myths that gun restrictionists spew, is the claim that it is gun owners who are fearful. In reality, those who try to curtail the constitutional rights of others, are the ones who are in fear
     
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    That's some interesting, if idiotic, speculation on your part.
     
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    it's what they believe, funny how they pick and choose when they think God will protect them isn't it... idiotic... maybe... your words not mine
     
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    Who's 'they'? I don't know anyone who who thinks like that... do you really? Sounds to me like more 'all christians are like WBC' crap.
     
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    read the quote, she and many republicans sadly think like that

    nope, plenty of good Christians out in the world
     
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    She does. Doesnt mean its a popular belief.
     
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    never said it was, I just said she and many republicans sadly think like that
     
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    Totally false and you literally do not have a shred of evidence to back up tour specious claim.
     
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    Ad hominems aside, how do you tell when firepower is too much?
     
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    The ones with the most firepower have too much. Once we get rid of them, then the ones with the next most firepower will have too much. Rinse and repeat for full victim disarmament.
     
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    Given the general ignorance - willful or otherwise - of the left with regard to the subject of firearms, you're probably correct.
     
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    It is due to ignorance. Lemmings just rebleat what is fed to them and never put forth the effort to learn about what they were made to oppose. Politicians know that an all out gun ban cannot be achieved, so they are slowly boiling the frog. ARs look scary to many and images are used to feed fear.

    As far as the majority of murder, the main culprit is government combined with an unarmed society.


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    Is that what you call "You shouldn't have that and I'm going to send nice people with just that same object to your house to take it from you"?
    Because that's what gun control threads usually are at their core: I don't think you should have that and I want someone to come take it from you and kill you if you resist.
     
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    How much is to much? No such thing as to much. Like no such thing as to much Steak. Or to much sex. Or to much beer. Always room for more.
     

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