How far should border control go to stop these caravan INVASIONS?

The Mexicans were begging us to do that in 1848. The USG declined.

 

I have no problem with good border control and security. I have no problem deporting illegal aliens. These ideas arent in dispute.

And I am all for good positive immigration reform, that sees to the needs of our country in terms of the needs of our services economy. We need agricultural workers. We need maids. We need all those things.

And EMPLOYERS who hire illegals need to be the ones punished. If you want to stop them, put a system in place that employers have to adhere to that would verify the legality of all foreign workers. Fine the living snot out of companies who illegally hire workers. If you get rids of the demand, they will stop coming illegally. But no one wants to do that either.

But I am also for a compassionate system to deal with this stuff and sort it out. These people should all have the chance to make their case for assylum. Period. We dont have to accept all of them. Or even the majority of them. BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPLY. I am for a system that doesnt forcibly separate children from parents as a punishment.

We can tackle these problems in a humane and secure manner. It IS possible. But not with Trump in charge unfortunately.

 

The Revolutionary Americans and the WWII Greatest Generation are the zenith of what it means to be an American.

 

We're down to talking results now, not wispy words of philosophy, ethics, and morals.

 

And if we do not have an embassy in their country?

 

That's just too bad. Turn around, beat feet to where you originated.

 

Ya. Heaven forbid that ethics and morality ever enter into the conversation.

Why not just send an aircraft to snipe a few of them then eh? Take a few out in the knee caps. when they get near to the border. Would that be acceptable for you?

 

So in other words, no compassion ethics or morality. Gotcha.

What a disgusting point of view you have.

 

Hopefully

 

Americans were inherently anti-establishment, anti-government rebels from the start.
It kept Governor Bradford up late into the night.

 

Shooting rock throwing rioters in the knee is always a good thing to do, but it is optional.
So long as tear gas, pepper spray and dye markers work.

 

Parents who allow their children to join a rock throwing mob of rioters should have their children taken from them.
That would be the humane thing to do whenever possible.

 

False, we have plenty of compassion but we also have common sense. You can't let others invade your nation knowing more will follow hence the reason more caravans are coming as we speak. At some point like a sinking ship, the country will fall.

Thank God we have Trump who has the wisdom to know this and not corrupt liberals in charge because if so, this nation would be gone.

 

Going out on a limb here and guess IF you went to college, you attended an all liberal brainwashing institution or psychology, sociology, and political science, somehow weren't required for your academic major?

 

I personally know people who have built their own cleaning clientele and have since been undercut by illegals working cheaper to the point they've had to cut their hourly charge or had to go out of business. Remember, the illegals working under the table are also getting entitlements and pay no taxes and therefore are gaming the system. So they can afford to take cheaper wages.

Saying they're taking jobs Americans don't want, pushed by liberals and businesses is absolute BS. WIN-WIN for illegals and businesses and LOSS-LOSS for Americans who lose their jobs and have to carry the tab to cover the entitlements.

 

Watch my lips.

There are far too many of them.

You say you don't want to let ALL of them in? Well........here's a newsflash.......THEY all want to get in and they are determined to outnumber whites by 2050 and run the U.S.

We can't even afford to let ten percent of them in and they want 100 percent.

You don't seem to understand at all what's at stake here.........let me help you.......

It's the survival of our country.

That's all.

 

And the murder fantasies begin again. No, lethal force should be used in self defense, and it is justifiable to use lethal force to prevent a felony. Not a misdemeanor. I'm selecting "if necessary," but only because there could actually be issues of self defense, and lethal force is justified in that case. That's the only "necessity."

 

Survival of America as we know it is not something that can be protected by misdemeanor charges.

What these hordes rushing the border are doing is not a misdemeanor........it's an invasion.

Please take note.

If we start letting any substantial number get in........it will just encourage the others......and we'll have millions making the trip north to paradise.

 

It isn't an "invasion" and it isn't an existential threat in the slightest. This sort of hyperbole has already resulted in actual murder, no need to promote even more.

These people are committing a misdemeanor if they enter illegally and no crime at all if they submit to officials at a port of entry. Meanwhile, you are promoting mass, lethal felonies. This kind of nonsense is far more of an affront to our nation and our laws than even illegal immigration is.

Please take note.

 

Gosh, if it's not an invasion......we wouldn't have to use tear gas and rubber bullets.

These Third-World barbarians want to take our country.

You are helping.

That makes you the enemy of your own country.

 

It it were actually an invasion, actually an existential threat, we WOULDN'T be using tear gas and rubber bullets.

Paranoia without a sliver of proof. Feels are poor replacement for facts.

Lol, by not promoting open murder, by respecting my country's laws on deadly force, I am an "enemy of [my] own country"? I honestly can't tell if you are even kidding or not at this point. Poe's law strikes again.

Murder fantasists sure are turned up over this one.

 

Gosh.......I don't recall recommending murder.

Never mind.......you seem upset and in need of histrionics in defense of your criminal friends.

Rave on. That's your right.

 

That 1% is just f***ed.

 

If you prefer manslaughter, I guess that's fine, but yes, what you are promoting is murder. You are promoting premeditated, unlawful deadly force. I'm not promoting any kind of criminal activity. You, however, are. I can link you to what actually qualifies as legally justified deadly force if you're interested, but yes, right now you are promoting murder by encouraging the use of deadly force to prevent illegal border crossings.

 

No......you're still putting spin on your opinion.

Here's what I said:

See......no murder, no manslaughter or womanslaughter.......just self-defense.

Self-defense of our officers and of America.

Taking life only as a last resort when the mobs reach high numbers and the rubber bullets and gas don't stop them or when the mobs themselves are launching deadly projectiles at our defenders.