How important to you is it that the US remains a white race majority country?

You can't make a lot of money there. But it's great for ranching I guess.

 

Things are cheaper, you can get a lot of land affordably, you are not tripping over your neighbors, crime is low, pollution is low, and you have a ton of opportunities for out door recreation. I guess what I am saying is that low population states like Wyoming and my state Kansas has different opportunities. I have been all over the country and seen the greatest cities in America and I cannot imagine living in any of them. Who wouldn't want to live in a place like below?

 

I heard winters were worse than Canada's. And it's almost all of it - a reservation. That true?

 

That's what is so awesome about this country! We have so many choices.

I love to visit those places, but I get bored. I like the ocean, and nightlife, and a wide variety of cultural experiences, including food. I'm near amusement parks, cruise terminals, food from every which way you can imagine, museums, art galleries, the ocean .... the list is seemingly endless.

I go to a small town in Kansas every year to visit with my in-laws. Great people, great town, but very limited options in terms of "going out." My husband calls it "sweat pants, bowling alleys and beer."

My sister lives in a town of 2,500 people. She wouldn't have it any other way, but I can't imagine living like that. I love her town and her home, though.

 

There are large reservations in Wyoming and some of them are the poorest and least successful communities in the country. If all the opportunity available is a one of our greatest strengths then the lack of success of many of our native American communities can be listed as one of our greatest failures. Not all are bad but I would say a majority are way poorer then the rest of the country.

 

Can you like...enter these reservations, or it's forbidden to enter?

 

They are just normal places with highways and towns but they are administered by the tribes and the Bureau of Indian Affairs. They have a lot of autonomy, but they are not closed off. The big thing is they have their own laws separate from the states they are in.

 

Telling, is it? (the drizzles sounds like something you take an antibiotic for) In what way?

Did you ever think for a moment that he didn't (and many others, for that fact) DON'T treat other nationalities or races any different? But you want those same people treated like some people mistreat the 'minorities'. How about supporting the idea that those who have done the mistreating, be the ones to be mistreated? Or that the minorities be the bigger person and treat other people *gasp!* how they would like to be treated?

 

Again, where did I advocate that? Unclutch those pearls and nut up or shut up.

And yes, it is VERY telling...

 

Short term memory loss?

(bold by me)

Now, you were defending this?

(Not quite sure you meant what your 'pearls' comment infers, but the visual on that set me laughing! )

 

1) Being treated like Americans treat minorities is the worst nightmare of many white Americans. That's because most white Americans know minorities are treated like shiite, even if they claim otherwise. That was a statement of fact, and in no way advocating a course of action. If you thought it was the latter, you were wrong, and it remains telling that it hit a nerve with you.

2) Clutching pearls -- a moment in time that forces one to clasp their hand to their chest, out of fear or shock, as if trying to protect an imaginary pearl necklace

 

What 'nerve' it hit was the idea that someone would assume another person not only treated others different then them, but that you, by your words, did indeed condone the idea that 'they and theirs' be treated badly. Yes, I do have an issue with that. Why you see that as a problem, is what is troubling. Yes, there are people who treat others horrendously, but apparently you have no issue with even more people, guilty or not, being treated horrendously, regardless how they have treated people.

Clutching pearls, in that connotation, is far from my reaction, but if it makes you sleep easier at night, have at it.

 

I can explain it to you, I can't understand it for you. I stand by what I said, and how I said it. Your understanding might vary depending on your own pre-existing cognitive filters. You're on your own at this point...

And if you don't loosen your grip on those pearls you're gonna give yourself a case of the vapors.

 

'White' race? What does that even mean?

 

Race is important to certain people. Such people are called 'racists'.

 

I read your response back when you posted it, laughed and walked away. This thread has been popping up on my alerts, and I find that your post begs the question, should not a person respond (verbally, or necessarily, physically) when they believe and unjust statement or action has been made?

 

People move to other countries for a variety of reasons. And when they move, they often still hold sentimental value for their home country. They may even retain their original citizenship. For a Canadian to raise a Canadian flag on July 1st while living in America simply shows their love of their home country on the day of her 'birth'. Now, if they flew that flag all year long - without also flying an American flag above it - shows disrespect to America.

As for America being an 'ideal country with ideal values'...I'd say you're being idealistic. There are no countries on this earth that have ideal values.

 

p.s. I prefer Sarah Bernhardt, so much more dramatic....

 

No country has ideal values? Can you at least admit that some countries have better values than others?

America values things like freedom and individualism (at least it used to probably not as much anymore), which is pretty ideal if you ask me. I couldn't imagine a country with better values. What could be better than freedom and liberty?

Also, having patriotism for a country that you aren't even living in is pretty hypocritical. If you value a country so much why aren't you living in it? And if you're not living in it, then what's the point in bringing its culture and values to America? We don't want mexicans or muslims who clearly have failed cultures and countries immigrating to america still holding on to their cultures. We want immigrants to become American and to adopt American values because America is the best. It's the best because people come here.

 

I absolutely can admit that some countries are 'better' than others. As for freedom and liberty...they are only words. They become values when they are supported by all.

I respect your patriotism in believing that America is the 'best'. I'm afraid I can't agree with you on that, so it's best we end the discussion there.

 

Character is most important.

I'd rather have a roomful of dumbass friends of good character, than a single immoral genius friend.

 

The problem with opening businesses in poor areas is it drives up the cost of living driving out poor folks who can't work. Where then would they go?

 

It's not the least important to me and that's not because my natural skin tone is brown. It's because what's important is embracing middle class and traditional national value systems. If you do that then you are automatically a pro-capitalism and pro-Constitution patriot with a strong work ethic and family values. The rest takes care of itself. Skin tone is meaningless.

 

white here ...nit impotant at all. Need people to stop looking at race altogether and trying to keep making a distinction. Peopke are people pure and simple. That said, constantly bringing up the conversation doesn't help.

 

Why isn't America the best? Can you at least tell me why? If you can't tell me then I'll just assume that you don't know what you're talking about.