How is it possible that Trump got elected?

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  1. LafayetteBis

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    Whats going to be your excuse when he is re elected ?

    Wouldnt it be nice if Hillary ran again. Hillary being so pathetic is why Trump won
     
  3. Sandy Shanks

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    Maybe. Certainly, that is a factor, too.
     
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    "Vast numbers of FORMER Obama voters switched their vote." Oh, really?

    In Michigan, Trump defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton by 10,704 votes, according to current totals on the state’s official website.

    And in Wisconsin, Trump’s margin over Clinton was 22,177.

    In Pennsylvania, meanwhile, Trump’s victory margin was 67,416 votes, according to the state’s latest numbers.

    That is 100,297 votes out of nearly 150 million votes cast.

    Trump won the Electoral College race with 306 electoral votes. Pennsylvania was worth 20 electoral votes, Michigan 16 and Wisconsin 10. If Clinton had won all three, she would have won the election.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-smaller-margin-than-stein-votes-in-all-three

    Another Trumpian caught lying.

    BTW, Hillary Clinton received more votes than any other US presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama – despite losing Tuesday’s election to Donald Trump.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...idate-barack-obama-donald-trump-a7413596.html
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    I wonder. She still might not have carried those states. Had she done so Trump would have countered with more time.
     
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    Simple Trump was the only one to beat hillary
     
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    They were convinced by the Democrats that sexual abuse was not a disqualifier.

    They were convinced by the Democrats that unethical business AND government practices even criminal acts, felonies, were not disqualifiers.

    The were convinced by Democrats that running a "foundation" in order to enrich themselves and even selling influence were not disqualifiers.

    They learned from Hillary there were questions about the circumstances of his birth.

    they learned from the Democrats that perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court and before a grand jury not a disqualifier.

    So on what basis are you claiming Trump should not have been elected because of these things. Clinton was elected and REelected and even when the chance came to remove him from office the Democrats refused. So why should the Republicans be called upon to try and remove Trump?
     
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    Are you saying he didn't run on a Democratic ticket? Are you claiming he didn't speak at the Democratic convention? That the DNC didn't betray him because he wasn't a member?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-dnc-sanders-glanton-talk-20160725-column.html
    Bernie Sanders' supporters have a right to be angry.

    The leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee apparently confirmed what they have said all along — that the political system was rigged against their candidate in favor of Hillary Clinton.

    Top Democrats essentially dismissed Sanders as a viable candidate during the primaries, attempted to undermine him with voters and even took steps to derail his campaign, according to hacked emails that were recently made public by WikiLeaks.


    In doing so, Democrats tarnished the electoral process and alienated a large constituency of voters that they will need to help lift Clinton to victory in November....

     
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    Yeah sorta like the Democrats who had Hillary slammed down their throats and have idiots like Pelosi and Reid and that out of control Perez in charge. They are eating their own now.
     
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    Vikings ?
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    HIs base in predominantly had populist leanings, conservatives simply have nowhere else to go.

    And populist do have more of the government helping the little guy attitude than conservatives with we are better when we can best help ourselves.
     
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    No it pertained to about a quarter of the country and the next quarter didn't appreciate the deplorable comment either.
     
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    Trump was elected by 2/3's of the states to HIllary's 1/3. Go learn how Presidents are elected.
     
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    It was the MSM that convinced people it could not be trusted with it's slanted selective news reporting, they didn't need Trumps help at all.
     
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    Yeah, Putin Publications are much more reliable. LOL
     
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    The Results speaks (I men Tweets) for itself everyday.

    :p Check
     
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    President Trump was elected despite the efforts of Republican leadership. There is nothing confusing about the message from the electorate. The reaction to Republican Leadership failing to carry through with legislation is not confusing.
     
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    Perhaps you have some accurate data to show that 40% of high school graduates aren't getting a post secondary degree because it's too expensive. The data I have read shows the failure to graduate, or even attend, is due to the poor education they received, and their inability to qualify for college level classes. This has nothing to do with cost. Student loans are granted to anyone with a heartbeat, and are payments don't begin until after the student has stopped going to class.

    I agree cost is a big deal, however. I think the cost of going to college is one of the greatest rip off scandals in generations.

    As to music over Doctors, I couldn't be more opposed to such an approach. We don't have enough doctors, engineers, scientists, etc..

    If I were in charge, I would end student loans for all but STEM courses and the related courses required to earn a degree.
     
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    Good point. Can’t tell you how many youth I know went for a degree in physical training.
     
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    You may be right.
     
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    Yes the more we she here still out there the more it shows voters were smart not to vote for her.
     
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    Actually about the same.
     
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    The first point is incorrect; the last point is correct.
    I agree.
     
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    Trump was elected by blue collar white workers who switched from D to Trump because they had been abandoned by the D's emphasis on identity politics. Trump won on a populist platform which place their economic success first. That's the bottom line.

    The "what happened" screed above misses the entire lesson that the D party should have learned and should be acting on. They are not. It's the economy stupid.
     
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    In truth, Russian publications are every bit as credible, more so in some cases, than our MSM.
     

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