"How long before they (US) get it"?

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  1. wombat

    wombat Well-Known Member

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    Me, my guns, me, my guns...I get you
     
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    wombat Well-Known Member

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    Have you read every post on this thread or cherry picked? Return to page one. I've stated earlier I dont repeat myself
     
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    wombat Well-Known Member

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    ". There is simply no legitimate reason to object to such a technology while ignoring all other types of firearms"

    Then lets include revising laws on "other types of firearms"
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Constitutional rights, changed only through an amendment, a real process that requires substantial effort and support of the people. You can't understand that so you make this about me. Don't come whining to us when your oppressor state takes more and more...
     
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    Thats your paranoia working. Thete isnt the faintest fear of our government "taking more" here. Thats inground in the US citizen psychy
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't even get it, they just took something, without an election, without a single oversight from anyone, and you fools cheer. They will take more, because you rubes will let them, and you just gave away one most effective check and balance to oppressor states. Its what I expect from lesser nations, good job...
     
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    What did they take from us? Name it
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually you are correct, they didn't really take anything, since you actually never had anything to begin with. Long ago they gave you a privilege and now they revoked it. Same with so-called free speech, another illusion in your oppressor state...
     
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    wombat Well-Known Member

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    You didnt get my country Australia and New Zealand mixed up did you? 4000km away, the Tasman sea between us and different countries?

    I think some geography lessons would help
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One lesser nation is so much like another, its pretty irrelevant, you Aussie folks don't have actual rights either, just privileges waiting to be taken...
     
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    No it's you who doesn't get it. right now if you where to walk out on my veranda you would hear gunfire format least 3 different directions, am I hiding behind block walls in fear for my life? Heck no, gunfire is normal around here, many of us have ranges setup in our backyards for the times we want to participate in a traditional American sport know as shooting.

    Such as this one 75 yards to the rear of my home.

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    Those of us who don't have backyard ranges are always welcome over at the Hendry County Sheriff's range.

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    I already presented it did you fail to read the DOJ link I attached, or are you just trying to ignore what doesn't fit your narrative?

     
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    Again totally incorrect and emotion driven pap.

    Get outside of the urban s-holes in the U.S. and you will discover firearms owners are considered by local law enforcement to be partners, they want us armed and able to be ready to stand ground, while they do their best to get on scene as quickly as possible.

     
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    I would like to explore this one with someone opining on the special, deadly nature of a semi auto over an action of another design. It’s become the new defining criteria of ‘military grade’ in the designation of firearms ‘too deadly’ for civilians, something being propagated by those with absolutely no knowledge of firearms. Reminds me of the image propagated in the 50’s in the US of the ‘deadly’ switchblade menace that resulted in the anti switch blade bans. Laws made by those having complete ignorance about knives.

    Can a gun control advocate educate me on why a semi auto is so deadly? It a semi auto more deadly than a revolver?
     
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    But the right to arms seems to.
     
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    Matthew 5:38-40
     
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    Neighter should, but both both do.
     
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    You're not the only one asking good questions

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/learning/us-bans-semiautomatic-weapons.html
     
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    Freedom of speech is a US right, it doesn't exist in any other country that I know of. Do you show this compassion for people in any other country by telling them what they should do? I know hardly anyone cares about the Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria.
     
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    Absolutely. All humans are on the same level to me. We in Oz have already expressed our outrage of non muslim slaughter in 1996.

    Attack the media for the imbalance of Christian/muslim slaughters not I.

    I've never been told here nor anywhere else not to say something, any opinion. I think you over rate freedom of speech in the US compared to any wrstern countries.
     
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    They typically have unintended consequences for their weapon control laws. Or they know exactly what they are doing and don't care. For example, in the 60's the Saturday night special was the boogieman. When they banned them, instead of criminals having a cheap, unreliable, small caliber, 5 or 6 shot handgun, they got reliable, higher power, higher capacity handguns. Then when they banned "assault rifles" and high cap magazines, criminals went to higher power .357 mag, .40 and above handguns and police complained they were outgunned.
     
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    If I give opinions on a topic I know not enough to defend members here have a cherry picking field day.

    Let me say, in the Aussie military in 1973 they had the SLR rifle taking 7.62 rounds. Self loading rifle similar to the AR from my observations firing rounds as fast as you pull the trigger. Magasines for the SLR took upwards of 22 rounds as we were required to load such within a time-frame.

    Then I owned a Winchester 44-40 (I think it was) that had single round firing then lower the handle and reload which took about one second maybe.

    Comparing the two over a 15 second period I think the SLR (or AR15) you could expell around 45 rounds or more, the other rifle say 15.

    In a crowded area be it a classroom or vegas concert that would mean less lives lost.

    Now revolvers are semi auto eg after firing the next round is ready to fire
    But some, like the 38 smith and wesson I'm experienced with only have 6 rounds.

    So for the purpose of this thread, a thread primarily aimed at asking people in the US to "Get" the need to reduce the carnage, I'd duggest revolvers be outlawed also that take more than 6 rounds. 6 rounds should be enough for self protection. The time taken to reload a 6 shooter would save lives.

    I stand to be corrected on the above due to limited knowledge.
     
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    Yes, you have limited knowledge.
    Btw, semi auto (not double action) six shot revolvers exist and have since WWII. And, you should check out rifle found anywhere the Brits set foot, the Lee Enfield for it’s rate of fire and Straight Pull actions, similar to what the Swiss Issued in WWII and post war for their rates of fire. Then, there are the AR15 pump action look alikes,..
    Then too, there are those that haven’t seen how quickly a S&W revolver can be run with reloads.
    So much myth about....
     
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