How many contradictions in your belief system before you'd leave it?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    There are 475 contradictions in the Bible, and I left that belief system. My question is, "how many contradictions would there need to be in your current belief system before you'd leave it?"

    Many people have never thought about that.

    Five? 10? I'm thinking maybe a dozen tops, but even then I'd take the belief system less seriously if there were even THAT many.

    If a witness in a jury trial gave 30 contradictions in their testimony, obviously you wouldn't trust anything they say, so why trust a book that has way more than even that? Only fear can get a person to completely disregard the requirement for consistency.

    Travon Martin's fiesty lady friend only gave a handful of contradictions in her testimony, and the press was all over her. She gave way way fewer contradictions than the bible, for example. If you don't believe her, then don't believe the Bible.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
     
  2. Bishadi

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    that's a good question.

    For example: most everyone believes that hot goes to cold, based on the 2nd law of thermodynamics. But just to put on a jacket is breaking the law.

    Everybody has laws, rules, contradictions and beliefs that are held but not full accepted or sustained.

    'How many' would it take, is a good question as i personally sit here all day long pointing out many items that people do not know or had taken into consideration prior to committing to a side of a debate.

    I would like to focus that methodology and see how many will actually be honest with themselves on a commitment.

    As for my 'beliefs', i dont really have many any more.

    I believe that each are capable.

    I believe that each can create.

    I know the 2LoT is a joke and to be repealed to the pirates code (as a sort of guideline).

    I know that any that can walk, can walk on water.







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    freeze it first



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  3. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    I don't like contradictions, hence why I stopped believing when I was around twelve, and started moving towards the right after fifteen.
     
  4. TBryant

    TBryant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What if there was one big truth? And lots of different people had crazy ideas about it.

    Call it all a lie?

    The way people reacted to Travons death says a lot more than what really happened. What is the big truth?

    Calm down. We were not there. We do not know.

    Really though the significance of anything is how you feel about it.
     
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    Please,put on your jacket and go sit outside at Vostok, or if that's too far,
    go to Fairbanks in January. Sit outside until you understand that
    2LOT is not so easy to outsmart. Or until frozen solid, whichever comes first.
     
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    If you have four different witnesses to a car accident, you will get four different versions of what happened, and there will be contradictions. That doesn't mean the car accident didn't happen.
     
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    To theists faith trumps reality. Atheists call that a complete lack of integrity.
     
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    Do you speak for ALL atheists then?
     
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    If you left that 'belief system', why are you still talking about it?
     
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    Blackrook Banned

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    That's a good point.
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    and of course, if they tell different stories not all of them can be true.

    What a non-point, really.
     
  12. taikoo

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    Usually your posts are too long and strident, over the top, to where I wont look at them.

    This one is short, to the point, and dead on.
     
  13. taikoo

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    Close enough, I'd phrase it differently, perhaps, but it is a lack of integrity.
    Its obvious; its blatant, its not just atheists who notice it.
    Any educated xtian could tell you that thinking there really was a world wide flood,
    for example, involves great intellectual dishonesty.
     
  14. Margot2

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    The story of Noah and the flood is a teaching narrative... along the same theme.. redemption.
     
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    I couldn't help but notice your signature.
    There may be a reason why you are the lowest information voter possible.
    You believe those that don't think the way you do should remain quiet about it.
    Shockingly, Blackrook agrees!
     
  16. TheRazorEdge

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    If I have four different people claiming to know specifics about an event(never mind a whole belief system with it's own history) they never actually witnessed, and the details don't match, do I get to question whether that event or that history actually happened then? How about 40,000 or 4 million?
     
  17. taikoo

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    40 k or 40 million WHAT?

    "Flood believers", or "fluddies" get specifics from the bible.
    Then they add to them, to taste; the excess water was wafted to Neptune, Hydroplate theory, etc.

    People who some common sense, and / or some knowledge of geology
    know its just a story.
     
  18. TheRazorEdge

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    People sharing an opinion, as in argument ad populum.

    You and I appear to be on the same side here. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  19. Margot2

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    Are you familiar with early Christian writings?

    Here are some that have survived.

    http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/
     
  20. Wolverine

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    476 contradictions would be the deal breaker.
     

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